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Hi everyone,

IRC channel: #ctv-csfs-activation on libera.chat

I [requested][0] the economic nodes to review different soft fork proposals
and share their opinion on 5 March 2025. Four entries were added to the
[wiki][1] and nobody has any objections to the proposals. Some
organizations do not want to publicly participate in this process to avoid
politics and drama.

A [letter][2] was signed on 9 June 2025 by bitcoin developers to get more
core contributors involved in the review process. It was followed by a
[proposal][3] that makes a few changes to CHECKTEMPLATEVERIFY and combines
it with CHECKSIGFROMSTACK. Personally, I don't like that TEMPLATEHASH is
restricted to taproot and don't see anything wrong with
CHECKTEMPLATEVERIFY. However, other developers may disagree with me and
have different opinion. I have created an IRC channel for workshops,
meetings, activation, etc.

We can finalize a meeting schedule so we can use the IRC channel to move
closer to covenants activation on bitcoin.

I think BIP 8 would be a better option for the next soft fork.
[Previously][4], some suggestions were [rejected][5] because knots was not
used by a large number of users. However, things have changed since then
and [~15%][6] of nodes use knots for bitcoin.

[0]: https://groups.google.com/g/bitcoindev/c/kd8g8V1NVOY/m/nE2y5V66AQAJ
[1]: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Covenants_support
[2]: https://ctv-csfs.com/
[3]: https://groups.google.com/g/bitcoindev/c/5wLThgegha4/m/iUWIZPIaCAAJ
[4]:
https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CAFvNmHS4s_MbXP8o3kWmaUZ5Xks1b76jSDymp1Bjr--4R8_v3Q@mail.gmail.com/
[5]:
https://diyhpl.us/cgit/pi-bitcoindev/plain/cc/877bbc8de83e7aa4d2252a0473d05d634946b4/dev/fd0
[6]: https://bitnodes.io/nodes/?q=knots#network-snapshot

/dev/fd0
floppy disk guy

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi everyone,<br><br>IRC channel: #ctv-csfs-activation on l=
ibera.chat<br><br>I [requested][0] the economic nodes to review different s=
oft fork proposals and share their opinion on 5 March 2025. Four entries we=
re added to the [wiki][1] and nobody has any objections to the proposals. S=
ome organizations do not want to publicly participate in this process to av=
oid politics and drama.<br><br>A [letter][2] was signed on 9 June 2025 by b=
itcoin developers to get more core contributors involved in the review proc=
ess. It was followed by a [proposal][3] that makes a few changes to CHECKTE=
MPLATEVERIFY and combines it with CHECKSIGFROMSTACK. Personally, I don&#39;=
t like that TEMPLATEHASH is restricted to taproot and don&#39;t see anythin=
g wrong with CHECKTEMPLATEVERIFY. However, other developers may disagree wi=
th me and have different opinion. I have created an IRC channel for worksho=
ps, meetings, activation, etc. <br><br>We can finalize a meeting schedule s=
o we can use the IRC channel to move closer to covenants activation on bitc=
oin.<br><br>I think BIP 8 would be a better option for the next soft fork. =
[Previously][4], some suggestions were [rejected][5] because knots was not =
used by a large number of users. However, things have changed since then an=
d [~15%][6] of nodes use knots for bitcoin.<br><br>[0]: <a href=3D"https://=
groups.google.com/g/bitcoindev/c/kd8g8V1NVOY/m/nE2y5V66AQAJ">https://groups=
.google.com/g/bitcoindev/c/kd8g8V1NVOY/m/nE2y5V66AQAJ</a><br>[1]: <a href=
=3D"https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Covenants_support">https://en.bitcoin.it/wik=
i/Covenants_support</a><br>[2]: <a href=3D"https://ctv-csfs.com/">https://c=
tv-csfs.com/</a><br>[3]: <a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/g/bitcoindev/=
c/5wLThgegha4/m/iUWIZPIaCAAJ">https://groups.google.com/g/bitcoindev/c/5wLT=
hgegha4/m/iUWIZPIaCAAJ</a><br>[4]: <a href=3D"https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoin=
dev/CAFvNmHS4s_MbXP8o3kWmaUZ5Xks1b76jSDymp1Bjr--4R8_v3Q@mail.gmail.com/">ht=
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4R8_v3Q@mail.gmail.com/</a><br>[5]: <a href=3D"https://diyhpl.us/cgit/pi-bi=
tcoindev/plain/cc/877bbc8de83e7aa4d2252a0473d05d634946b4/dev/fd0">https://d=
iyhpl.us/cgit/pi-bitcoindev/plain/cc/877bbc8de83e7aa4d2252a0473d05d634946b4=
/dev/fd0</a><br>[6]:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://bitnodes.io/nodes/?q=3Dknots#n=
etwork-snapshot">https://bitnodes.io/nodes/?q=3Dknots#network-snapshot</a><=
br><br>/dev/fd0<br>floppy disk guy</div>

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