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Four entries were added to the [wiki][1] and nobody has any objections to the proposals. Some organizations do not want to publicly participate in this process to avoid politics and drama. A [letter][2] was signed on 9 June 2025 by bitcoin developers to get more core contributors involved in the review process. It was followed by a [proposal][3] that makes a few changes to CHECKTEMPLATEVERIFY and combines it with CHECKSIGFROMSTACK. Personally, I don't like that TEMPLATEHASH is restricted to taproot and don't see anything wrong with CHECKTEMPLATEVERIFY. However, other developers may disagree with me and have different opinion. I have created an IRC channel for workshops, meetings, activation, etc. We can finalize a meeting schedule so we can use the IRC channel to move closer to covenants activation on bitcoin. I think BIP 8 would be a better option for the next soft fork. [Previously][4], some suggestions were [rejected][5] because knots was not used by a large number of users. However, things have changed since then and [~15%][6] of nodes use knots for bitcoin. [0]: https://groups.google.com/g/bitcoindev/c/kd8g8V1NVOY/m/nE2y5V66AQAJ [1]: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Covenants_support [2]: https://ctv-csfs.com/ [3]: https://groups.google.com/g/bitcoindev/c/5wLThgegha4/m/iUWIZPIaCAAJ [4]: https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CAFvNmHS4s_MbXP8o3kWmaUZ5Xks1b76jSDymp1Bjr--4R8_v3Q@mail.gmail.com/ [5]: https://diyhpl.us/cgit/pi-bitcoindev/plain/cc/877bbc8de83e7aa4d2252a0473d05d634946b4/dev/fd0 [6]: https://bitnodes.io/nodes/?q=knots#network-snapshot /dev/fd0 floppy disk guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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Hi everyone,

IRC channel: #ctv-csfs-activation on l= ibera.chat

I [requested][0] the economic nodes to review different s= oft fork proposals and share their opinion on 5 March 2025. Four entries we= re added to the [wiki][1] and nobody has any objections to the proposals. S= ome organizations do not want to publicly participate in this process to av= oid politics and drama.

A [letter][2] was signed on 9 June 2025 by b= itcoin developers to get more core contributors involved in the review proc= ess. It was followed by a [proposal][3] that makes a few changes to CHECKTE= MPLATEVERIFY and combines it with CHECKSIGFROMSTACK. Personally, I don'= t like that TEMPLATEHASH is restricted to taproot and don't see anythin= g wrong with CHECKTEMPLATEVERIFY. However, other developers may disagree wi= th me and have different opinion. I have created an IRC channel for worksho= ps, meetings, activation, etc.

We can finalize a meeting schedule s= o we can use the IRC channel to move closer to covenants activation on bitc= oin.

I think BIP 8 would be a better option for the next soft fork. = [Previously][4], some suggestions were [rejected][5] because knots was not = used by a large number of users. However, things have changed since then an= d [~15%][6] of nodes use knots for bitcoin.

[0]: https://groups= .google.com/g/bitcoindev/c/kd8g8V1NVOY/m/nE2y5V66AQAJ
[1]: https://en.bitcoin.it/wik= i/Covenants_support
[2]: https://c= tv-csfs.com/
[3]: https://groups.google.com/g/bitcoindev/c/5wLT= hgegha4/m/iUWIZPIaCAAJ
[4]: ht= tps://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CAFvNmHS4s_MbXP8o3kWmaUZ5Xks1b76jSDymp1Bjr--= 4R8_v3Q@mail.gmail.com/
[5]: https://d= iyhpl.us/cgit/pi-bitcoindev/plain/cc/877bbc8de83e7aa4d2252a0473d05d634946b4= /dev/fd0
[6]:=C2=A0https://bitnodes.io/nodes/?q=3Dknots#network-snapshot<= br>
/dev/fd0
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