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That's a fair point, I confused anyone-can-spend with anyone-can-pay =
[1].
Isn't it different in the case of P2SH and SegWit, don't full nodes =
validate the script?
In other words, miners don't have complete control over the coins, full =
nodes keep a check on them.
At least that was my understanding, and if that's not the case then it =
doesn't make sense to me why Pieter would earlier in this thread object =
to Drivechain on the grounds that it's a different security model.
- Greg
[1] =
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jl777/bitcoin-spinoff-fork-how-to-make-a-clea=
n-fork-without-any-replay-attack-and-no-blockchain-visible-changes =
<https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jl777/bitcoin-spinoff-fork-how-to-make-a-cle=
an-fork-without-any-replay-attack-and-no-blockchain-visible-changes>
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> On Jul 12, 2017, at 12:54 PM, CryptAxe via bitcoin-dev =
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org =
<mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>> wrote:
>=20
> Are we just pulling numbers out of thin air now? https://p2sh.info/ =
<https://p2sh.info/> BIP16 for example is widely used. It would be =
difficult to find a single wallet that doesn't support BIP16 I have no =
idea what you are talking about.
>=20
> On 07/12/2017 12:42 PM, Tao Effect via bitcoin-dev wrote:
>> ...
>> In the present situation, anyone-can-spend outputs are used by =
probably less than 0.1% of users, and most software doesn't even allow =
for the possibility.
>>=20
>> In Drivechain it's *encouraged-by-design*!
>>=20
>> - Greg
>>=20
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class=3D"">That's a fair point, I confused anyone-can-spend =
with anyone-can-pay [1].<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Isn't it different in the case of P2SH and SegWit, don't full =
nodes validate the script?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">In other words, miners don't have complete control over the =
coins, full nodes keep a check on them.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">At least that was my understanding, and =
if that's not the case then it doesn't make sense to me why Pieter would =
earlier in this thread object to Drivechain on the grounds that it's a =
different security model.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
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class=3D"">https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@jl777/bitcoin-spinoff-fork-how-to-=
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class=3D"">On Jul 12, 2017, at 12:54 PM, CryptAxe via bitcoin-dev <<a =
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class=3D"">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>> wrote:</div><br =
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<div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" class=3D""><p class=3D"">Are =
we just pulling numbers out of thin air now?
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" =
href=3D"https://p2sh.info/">https://p2sh.info/</a> BIP16 for example is =
widely used. It would be
difficult to find a single wallet that doesn't support BIP16 I
have no idea what you are talking about.<br class=3D"">
</p>
<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 07/12/2017 12:42 PM, Tao Effect =
via
bitcoin-dev wrote:<br class=3D"">
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<div class=3D"">In the present situation, anyone-can-spend outputs
are used by probably less than 0.1% of users, and most software
doesn't even allow for the possibility.</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">In Drivechain it's *encouraged-by-design*!<br =
class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
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