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So who physically manually uploads the gitian build to bitcoin.org?

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Mark Friedenbach <mark@friedenbach.org>
wrote:

> Well the gitian builds are made available on bitcoin.org. If you mean a
> build server where gitian builds are automatically done and made available,
> well that rather defeats the point of gitian.
>
> The quorum signatures are accumulated here:
> https://github.com/bitcoin/gitian.sigs (it's a manual process).
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Roy Osherove <roy@osherove.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mark.
>> Is there a public server where the gitian builds can be viewed?
>> Is there a public server that shows the quorum verifications or that
>> shows how to join in on the verification if such as thing is helpful?
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Mark Friedenbach <mark@friedenbach.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The builds made by Travis are for the purpose of making sure that the
>>> source code compiles and tests run successfully on all supported platforms.
>>> The binaries are not used anywhere else because Travis is not a trusted
>>> platform.
>>>
>>> The binaries on bitcoin.org are built using the gitian process and
>>> signed by a quorum of developers.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Roy Osherove via bitcoin-dev <
>>> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Folks.
>>>> I'm trying my hand at creating a reproducible build of my own for
>>>> bitcoin and bitcoin-XT, using TeamCity.
>>>> I believe it is the best way to learn something: To try to build it
>>>> yourself.
>>>> Here is what I think I know so far, and I would love corrections, plus
>>>> questions:
>>>>
>>>>    1. Bitcoin is built continuously on travis-CI at
>>>>    https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/
>>>>    2.  there are many flavors that are built, but I'm not sure if all
>>>>    of them are actually used/necessary. are they all needed, or just to "just
>>>>    in case"?
>>>>    3.  There is a gitian build file for bitcoin, but is anyone
>>>>    actually using it? are the bin files on bitcoin.org taken from
>>>>    that? or the travis ci builds? or some other place?
>>>>    4. Are there any things that people would love to have in the build
>>>>    that do not exist there today? perhaps I can help with that?
>>>>
>>>> Here is what I have now: http://btcdev.osherove.com:8111/
>>>> It does not do the matrix build yet, but it's coming. I'm just
>>>> wondering if all the platforms need to be supported,and if gitian is truly
>>>> required to be used, or used in parallel, or at all..
>>>>
>>>> Feedback appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Roy Osherove
>>>>
>>>>    - *@RoyOsherove* <https://twitter.com/RoyOsherove>
>>>>    - Read my new book *Notes to a Software Team Leader
>>>> <http://TeamLeadSkills.com>*
>>>>    - Or *my new course* about Beautiful Builds
>>>> <http://courses.osherove.com> and Continuous Delivery
>>>>    - +1-201-256-5575
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
>>>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Roy Osherove
>>
>>    - *@RoyOsherove* <https://twitter.com/RoyOsherove>
>>    - Read my new book *Notes to a Software Team Leader
>> <http://TeamLeadSkills.com>*
>>    - Or *my new course* about Beautiful Builds
>> <http://courses.osherove.com> and Continuous Delivery
>>    - +1-201-256-5575
>>     - Timezone: Eastern Standard Time (New York)
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
Thanks,

Roy Osherove

   - *@RoyOsherove* <https://twitter.com/RoyOsherove>
   - Read my new book *Notes to a Software Team Leader
<http://TeamLeadSkills.com>*
   - Or *my new course* about Beautiful Builds <http://courses.osherove.com>
and Continuous Delivery
   - +1-201-256-5575
    - Timezone: Eastern Standard Time (New York)

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<div dir=3D"ltr">So who physically manually uploads the gitian build to <a =
href=3D"http://bitcoin.org">bitcoin.org</a>?</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Mark Fri=
edenbach <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@friedenbach.org" targ=
et=3D"_blank">mark@friedenbach.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Well the gitian builds are made avail=
able on <a href=3D"http://bitcoin.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin.org</a>. I=
f you mean a build server where gitian builds are automatically done and ma=
de available, well that rather defeats the point of gitian.<br><br></div>Th=
e quorum signatures are accumulated here: <a href=3D"https://github.com/bit=
coin/gitian.sigs" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/bitcoin/gitian.sigs<=
/a> (it&#39;s a manual process).<br></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=
=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, S=
ep 23, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Roy Osherove <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:roy@osherove.com" target=3D"_blank">roy@osherove.com</a>&gt;</span> wrot=
e:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Mark.<div>Is t=
here a public server where the gitian builds can be viewed?=C2=A0</div><div=
>Is there a public server that shows the quorum verifications or that shows=
 how to join in on the verification if such as thing is helpful?</div></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed=
, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Mark Friedenbach <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:mark@friedenbach.org" target=3D"_blank">mark@friedenbach.org</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=
The builds made by Travis are for the purpose of making sure that the sourc=
e code compiles and tests run successfully on all supported platforms. The =
binaries are not used anywhere else because Travis is not a trusted platfor=
m.<br><br></div>The binaries on <a href=3D"http://bitcoin.org" target=3D"_b=
lank">bitcoin.org</a> are built using the gitian process and signed by a qu=
orum of developers.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div><div>On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Roy Osherove via bi=
tcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfo=
undation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Hi Folks.<div>I&#39;m trying my hand at creating a reproduci=
ble build of my own for bitcoin and bitcoin-XT, using TeamCity.</div><div>I=
 believe it is the best way to learn something: To try to build it yourself=
.</div><div>Here is what I think I know so far, and I would love correction=
s, plus questions:</div><div><ol><li>Bitcoin is built continuously on travi=
s-CI at=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/" target=3D"_=
blank">https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/</a><br></li><li>=C2=A0there a=
re many flavors that are built, but I&#39;m not sure if all of them are act=
ually used/necessary. are they all needed, or just to &quot;just in case&qu=
ot;?<br></li><li>=C2=A0There is a gitian build file for bitcoin, but is any=
one actually using it? are the bin files on <a href=3D"http://bitcoin.org" =
target=3D"_blank">bitcoin.org</a> taken from that? or the travis ci builds?=
 or some other place?</li><li>Are there any things that people would love t=
o have in the build that do not exist there today? perhaps I can help with =
that?</li></ol><div>Here is what I have now:=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://btcdev.=
osherove.com:8111/" target=3D"_blank">http://btcdev.osherove.com:8111/</a><=
/div></div><div>It does not do the matrix build yet, but it&#39;s coming. I=
&#39;m just wondering if all the platforms need to be supported,and if giti=
an is truly required to be used, or used in parallel, or at all..</div><div=
><br></div><div>Feedback appreciated.</div><span><font color=3D"#888888"><d=
iv><br></div><div>-- <br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks,<br><br>Roy Osherove<br><br>=C2=A0=C2=A0 - <a href=
=3D"https://twitter.com/RoyOsherove" target=3D"_blank"><b>@RoyOsherove</b><=
/a><br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- Read my new book <b><a href=3D"http://TeamLeadSkills.=
com" target=3D"_blank">Notes to a Software Team Leader</a></b><div><div>=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0- Or <a href=3D"http://courses.osherove.com" target=3D"_blank"><b=
>my new course</b> about Beautiful Builds</a> and Continuous Delivery<br>=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0- <a href=3D"tel:%2B1-201-256-5575" value=3D"+12012565575" tar=
get=3D"_blank">+1-201-256-5575</a> =C2=A0</div><div><br><br></div></div></d=
iv></div></div></div></div></div>
</div></font></span></div>
<br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
bitcoin-dev mailing list<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">=
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mail=
man/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br></div></div>=
<div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div=
>Thanks,<br><br>Roy Osherove<br><br>=C2=A0=C2=A0 - <a href=3D"https://twitt=
er.com/RoyOsherove" target=3D"_blank"><b>@RoyOsherove</b></a><br>=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0- Read my new book <b><a href=3D"http://TeamLeadSkills.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">Notes to a Software Team Leader</a></b></div></div><div><div><div><di=
v>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- Or <a href=3D"http://courses.osherove.com" target=3D"_blan=
k"><b>my new course</b> about Beautiful Builds</a> and Continuous Delivery<=
br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- <a href=3D"tel:%2B1-201-256-5575" value=3D"+12012565575" =
target=3D"_blank">+1-201-256-5575</a> =C2=A0</div></div></div><div>=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 - Timezone: Eastern Standard Time (New York)<br><br><br></div></div>=
</div></div></div></div></div></div>
</div>
</blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks,<br><br>Roy Osherove<br><br>=C2=A0=C2=A0 - <a href=
=3D"https://twitter.com/RoyOsherove" target=3D"_blank"><b>@RoyOsherove</b><=
/a><br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- Read my new book <b><a href=3D"http://TeamLeadSkills.=
com" target=3D"_blank">Notes to a Software Team Leader</a></b><div><div>=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0- Or <a href=3D"http://courses.osherove.com" target=3D"_blank"><b=
>my new course</b> about Beautiful Builds</a> and Continuous Delivery<br>=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0- +1-201-256-5575 =C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Timezone: E=
astern Standard Time (New York)<br><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></=
div></div></div>
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