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On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 05:19:29PM +0700, Venzen Khaosan via bitcoin-dev
> wrote:
> > Mike Hearn,
> >
> > I challenge you to a public debate with the following conditions:
>
> This is very off-topic for a development mailing list.
>


I disagree.

Therefore, we do not have a consensus.

As there is no consensus, you need to do one of two things:

1) Post a 10 page, 5 paragraph persuasive essay about how you are a Traitor
to Consensus, and do it
loudly on Reddit, MySpace, LinkedIn, etc, so that everyone in the community
is correctly informed.

2) Do nothing.

This is a very logical argument and is of the utmost seriousness, as what
Peter[:-1] is doing is a threat
to Consensus, which is the very foundation of Bitcoin. These are related
issues.

I question Peter[:-1]'s motives and hereby challenge him to a public debate
with the following conditions:

- - The subject is Bitcoin.
- - The debate may take place at any time at any place.
- - You will not know that the debate has begun until it is over.

Sincerely,
NMH


>
> Go away.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=
=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 05:19:29PM +0700,=
 Venzen Khaosan via bitcoin-dev wrote:<br>
&gt; Mike Hearn,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I challenge you to a public debate with the following conditions:<br>
<br>
</span>This is very off-topic for a development mailing list.<br></blockquo=
te><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I disagree.<br><br>Therefore, we do n=
ot have a consensus.<br><br><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px">As there is no =
consensus, you need to=C2=A0<span class=3D"">do</span>=C2=A0one of two thin=
gs:</div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><=
br>1) Post a 10 page, 5 paragraph persuasive essay about how you are a Trai=
tor to Consensus,=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">and</span><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12.8px">=C2=A0</span><span class=3D"" style=3D"font-=
size:12.8px">do</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">=C2=A0</span><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.8px">it<br>loudly on Reddit, MySpace, LinkedIn, etc, s=
o that everyone in the community is correctly</span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12.8px">=C2=A0informed.</span></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><br><=
/div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px">2)=C2=A0<span class=3D"">Do</span>=C2=
=A0<span class=3D"">nothing.</span></div></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8=
px"><br>This is a very logical argument and is of the utmost seriousness, a=
s what Peter[:-1] is doing is a threat<br>to Consensus, which is the=C2=A0v=
ery foundation of Bitcoin. These are related issues.<br><br>I question Pete=
r[:-1]&#39;s motives and hereby challenge him to a public debate with the f=
ollowing conditions:<br><br>- - The subject is Bitcoin.<br>- - The debate m=
ay take place at any time at any place.<br>- - You will not know that the d=
ebate has begun until it is over.<br><br>Sincerely,<br>NMH</div><div>=C2=A0=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:s=
olid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Go away.<br>
<span class=3D""><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
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