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Hi Ava, hi all,
Thanks for the feedback and glad to hear the change has been welcome.
For my part, I've been happy with the current group. While Murch and I=20
have been the most visibly active day-to-day on the repository, the other=
=20
editors have been very responsive in private messages and consultations to=
=20
discuss BIPs issues. Two editors active day-to-day has been a fairly good=
=20
number (easy to coordinate together, not too many cooks in the kitchen),=20
while still benefitting from the implication and experience of the other=20
editors on questions that come up. It has been an enjoyable collaboration=
=20
and experience.
Regards,
Jon
On Monday, July 14, 2025 at 7:28:16=E2=80=AFPM UTC-6 Ava Chow wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> During last year's discussion on adding new BIP Editors, AJ [noted][1]=20
> that it might be worthwhile to have some sort of review process of the=20
> BIP Editors in order to import the BIPs process. Since it has been more=
=20
> than a year since the new BIP Editors were added, it seems like a good=20
> time to take a look back.
>
> The 5 new BIP Editors were added in April of last year. In the time=20
> since, the BIPs repository has seen a lot more action and the addition=20
> of new BIP Editors seems to me to be quite successful.
>
> In the 15 months prior to adding the new BIP Editors, the BIP Editors had=
:
> - Left 80 comments
> - Merged 44 PRs
> - Closed 6 PRs
> - Assigned 4 BIP numbers
>
> In the 15 months since adding the new BIP Editors, the BIP Editors have:
> - Left 1272 comments
> - Merged 261 PRs
> - Closed 122 PRs
> - Assigned 22 BIP numbers
>
> This improvement is very much welcome and the BIPs process no longer=20
> feels stuck.
>
> That being said, there is significant variance in the activity of the=20
> Editors, with only a couple Editors accounting for the vast majority of=
=20
> the aforementioned activity. This raises the question of whether all of=
=20
> the current BIP Editors want to dedicate their time to serving the=20
> community in this role, and whether there are others who could take=20
> their place as well.
>
> Thanks,
> Ava
>
> [1]: https://groups.google.com/g/bitcoindev/c/cuMZ77KEQAA/m/hplkMlcmBwAJ
>
>
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<div>Hi Ava, hi all,</div><div><br /></div><div>Thanks for the feedback and=
glad to hear the change has been welcome.</div><br /><div>For my part, I'v=
e been happy with the current group.=C2=A0 While Murch and I have been the =
most visibly active day-to-day on the repository, the other editors have be=
en very responsive in private messages and consultations to discuss BIPs is=
sues.=C2=A0 Two editors active day-to-day has been a fairly good number (ea=
sy to coordinate together, not too many cooks in the kitchen), while still =
benefitting from the implication and experience of the other editors on que=
stions that come up.=C2=A0 =C2=A0It has been an enjoyable collaboration and=
experience.</div><div><br />Regards,</div><div>Jon</div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Monday, July 14, 2025 at=
7:28:16=E2=80=AFPM UTC-6 Ava Chow wrote:<br/></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 20=
4, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi All,
<br>
<br>During last year's discussion on adding new BIP Editors, AJ [noted]=
[1]=20
<br>that it might be worthwhile to have some sort of review process of the=
=20
<br>BIP Editors in order to import the BIPs process. Since it has been more=
=20
<br>than a year since the new BIP Editors were added, it seems like a good=
=20
<br>time to take a look back.
<br>
<br>The 5 new BIP Editors were added in April of last year. In the time=20
<br>since, the BIPs repository has seen a lot more action and the addition=
=20
<br>of new BIP Editors seems to me to be quite successful.
<br>
<br>In the 15 months prior to adding the new BIP Editors, the BIP Editors h=
ad:
<br>- Left 80 comments
<br>- Merged 44 PRs
<br>- Closed 6 PRs
<br>- Assigned 4 BIP numbers
<br>
<br>In the 15 months since adding the new BIP Editors, the BIP Editors have=
:
<br>- Left 1272 comments
<br>- Merged 261 PRs
<br>- Closed 122 PRs
<br>- Assigned 22 BIP numbers
<br>
<br>This improvement is very much welcome and the BIPs process no longer=20
<br>feels stuck.
<br>
<br>That being said, there is significant variance in the activity of the=
=20
<br>Editors, with only a couple Editors accounting for the vast majority of=
=20
<br>the aforementioned activity. This raises the question of whether all of=
=20
<br>the current BIP Editors want to dedicate their time to serving the=20
<br>community in this role, and whether there are others who could take=20
<br>their place as well.
<br>
<br>Thanks,
<br>Ava
<br>
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hplkMlcmBwAJ" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" data-saferedirecturl=3D"ht=
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<br>
<br></blockquote></div>
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