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From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
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On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 09:37:22AM -0600, Bryan Bishop via bitcoin-dev wrot=
e:
> Anti spam has been an issue for the moderators. It's relentless. Without
> access to the underlying server, it has been difficult to fight spam. The=
re
> is some support for filters in mailman2 but it's not great.

Since this is a technical mailing list it would be fine to require people to
pay a non-refundable anti-spam fee, eg via lightning, to gain the ability to
send messages. While this would require some custom software, it's probably
even possible to implement this if a third party is used for hosting, provi=
ded
they have some kind of API.

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