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On Monday, May 5, 2025 at 9:27:24=E2=80=AFAM UTC Nagaev Boris wrote:
There may also be users today who rely on datacarrier=20
behaviour/options without yet realizing they're scheduled for removal.=20
How is it possible that anyone relies on it in a way that it will be a=20
detriment to them?
"I run bitcoind because I want to help centralize the network through=20
incentives to direct miner submission and slower block propagation, and by=
=20
encouraging utxo bloating 'fake addresses' outputs! I also like diminishing=
=20
my own ability to anticipate the content of the next block using data on my=
=20
own node" ? :P Were that actually someone's opinion I don't think anyone=
=20
would regret inviting them to run different software.
I've been engaging 1:1 with people concerned about the change on forums for=
=20
the last few days and I've haven't yet encountered any clear argument as to=
=20
why someone would be harmed by the change.
Rather, I've found that they've simply been fed an incorrect argument that=
=20
this change is a product of "bitcoin core" being in favor of non-monetary=
=20
(ab)uses of the Bitcoin network, and that it will radically increase the=20
amount of it. As far as I can tell this is a total falsehood both respect=
=20
to motivations and credible effects, and allegations otherwise just don't=
=20
survive the sunlight of a competent counterargument.
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<div><div dir=3D"auto">On Monday, May 5, 2025 at 9:27:24=E2=80=AFAM UTC Nag=
aev Boris wrote:<br /></div><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">There may a=
lso be users today who rely on datacarrier
<br />behaviour/options without yet realizing they're scheduled for removal=
.
<br /></blockquote><div><br /></div><div>How is it possible that anyone rel=
ies on it in a way that it will be a detriment to them?</div><div><br /></d=
iv><div>"I run bitcoind because I want to help centralize the network throu=
gh incentives to direct miner submission and slower block propagation, and =
by encouraging utxo bloating 'fake addresses' outputs! I also like diminish=
ing my own ability to anticipate the content of the next block using data o=
n my own node" ? :P=C2=A0=C2=A0 Were that actually someone's opinion I don'=
t think anyone would regret inviting them to run different software.</div><=
div><br /></div><div>I've been engaging 1:1 with people concerned about the=
change on forums for the last few days and I've haven't yet encountered an=
y clear argument as to why someone would be harmed by the change.</div><div=
><br /></div><div>Rather, I've found that they've simply been fed an incorr=
ect argument that this change is a product of "bitcoin core" being in favor=
of non-monetary (ab)uses of the Bitcoin network, and that it will radicall=
y increase the amount of it.=C2=A0 As far as I can tell this is a total fal=
sehood both respect to motivations and credible effects, and allegations ot=
herwise just don't survive the sunlight of a competent counterargument.</di=
v><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div></div>
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