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Hi,

If the author of the BIP would like to add some accessibility and voice/UI=
=20
guidance mentioned by Lucas, a great open source resource created by=20
Bitcoin Design community exists on the topic:

https://bitcoin.design/guide/designing-products/units-and-symbols/

I hope it helps.

Best,
Jakub

On Thursday, 1 May 2025 at 11:24:17 UTC+2 Lucas Andr=C3=A9 wrote:

> Maranatha!
>
> I propose a small addition that could improve this, particularly for user=
s=20
> relying on assistive technologies (like our boi Hal Finney once did).
>
> Specifically, I suggest adding a short section on *accessibility and=20
> voice/UI guidance*. Your proposal does a solid job, but it doesn't yet=20
> cover how these should be handled in screen readers, voice assistants, or=
=20
> accessible interfaces. Below is a proposed section that could be added=20
> under "specification" or introduced as a new non-normative section.
>
> To ensure clarity and inclusiveness in UIs and assistive technologies, th=
e=20
>> following recommendations apply:
>> =20
>> Pronunciation:
>> The abbreviation "sat" should be pronounced as /s=C3=A6t/, and "sats" (p=
lural)=20
>> should be pronounced as /s=C3=A6ts/ (rhyming with "cats") by screen read=
ers and=20
>> voice assistants. "Satoshi" (singular) is pronounced /s=C9=99=CB=88to=CA=
=8A=CA=83i/. "Satoshis"=20
>> (plural) is pronounced /s=C9=99=CB=88to=CA=8A=CA=83iz/.=20
>
> =20
>
> Singular vs. Plural:
>> "1 sat" should be read as "one satoshi" and "100 sats" as "one hundred=
=20
>> satoshis" to preserve correct pluralization and meaning. When reading=20
>> aloud:=20
>
> =20
>
> "1 sat" =E2=86=92 "one satoshi" =E2=86=92 /w=CA=8Cn s=C9=99=CB=88to=CA=8A=
=CA=83i/
>> "100 sats" =E2=86=92 "one hundred satoshis" =E2=86=92 /w=CA=8Cn =CB=88h=
=CA=8Cndr=C9=99d s=C9=99=CB=88to=CA=8A=CA=83iz/
>> =20
>> Readable Formats:
>> Prefer full terms in accessibility modes (e.g., "satoshis" instead of=20
>> "sats"), and group digits to assist parsing (e.g., "12,345" instead of=
=20
>> "12345").
>> =20
>> Contextual Labels:
>> Interfaces should use clear alt-text or aria-labels such as: *alt=3D"Tra=
nsaction=20
>> fee: 14 satoshis per virtual byte". * This enables screen readers and=20
>> other assistive technologies to accurately interpret and communicate the=
=20
>> content.
>
> =20
> If this makes sense, I'd be happy to help refine it or adjust to fit the=
=20
> structure if necessary.
>
> References:=20
> https://www.internationalphoneticalphabet.org
> https://tophonetics.com
>
> Peace,
> Lucas.
>
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 11:16=E2=80=AFAM 'OceanSlim' via Bitcoin Developm=
ent=20
> Mailing List <bitco...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> To the Bitcoin developer community,
>>
>> I'm writing to propose a new Bitcoin Improvement Proposal (BIP) aimed at=
=20
>> formally standardizing terminology for Bitcoin's smallest unit. This is =
an=20
>> informational BIP that seeks to officially recognize "satoshi" (singular=
)=20
>> or "satoshis" (plural) as the standard term for 1/100,000,000 of a bitco=
in,=20
>> with "sats" as the standard abbreviation.
>>
>> While this terminology is already widely used throughout the Bitcoin=20
>> ecosystem, no formal standard exists, leading to inconsistent usage acro=
ss=20
>> applications, documentation, and communications. This BIP seeks to=20
>> formalize what has organically become common practice.
>>
>> The BIP can already be viewed here:
>> https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1841=20
>> <https://deref-gmx.com/mail/client/rgLlibWjbIA/dereferrer/?redirectUrl=
=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fbitcoin%2Fbips%2Fpull%2F1841>
>>
>> I'd like to note that this proposal differs from BIP-176 (Bits=20
>> Denomination) and the recent BIP-177 proposal (Redefine Bitcoin's Base=
=20
>> Unit). While those proposals suggest changing or adding denomination=20
>> schemes, this BIP simply formalizes existing widely-used terminology=20
>> without changing the underlying unit structure.
>>
>> I look forward to your feedback and suggestions.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> OceanSlim
>> npub1zmc6qyqdfnllhnzzxr5wpepfpnzcf8q6m3jdveflmgruqvd3qa9sjv7f60
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Hi,<br /><br />If the author of the BIP would like to add some=C2=A0accessi=
bility and voice/UI guidance mentioned by Lucas, a great open source resour=
ce created by Bitcoin Design community exists on the topic:<br /><br />http=
s://bitcoin.design/guide/designing-products/units-and-symbols/<br /><br />I=
 hope it helps.<br /><br />Best,<br />Jakub<br /><br /><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote"><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thursday, 1 May 2025 at 11=
:24:17 UTC+2 Lucas Andr=C3=A9 wrote:<br/></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 20=
4); padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Maranatha!<br><br=
>I propose a small addition that could improve this, particularly for users=
 relying on assistive technologies (like our boi Hal Finney once did).<br><=
br>Specifically, I suggest adding a short section on=C2=A0<b>accessibility =
and voice/UI guidance</b>. Your proposal does a solid job, but it doesn&#39=
;t yet cover how these should be handled in screen readers, voice assistant=
s, or accessible interfaces. Below is a proposed section that could be adde=
d under &quot;specification&quot; or introduced as a new non-normative sect=
ion.<br><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">To ensure cla=
rity and inclusiveness in UIs and assistive technologies, the following rec=
ommendations apply:<br>=C2=A0<br>Pronunciation:<br>The abbreviation &quot;s=
at&quot; should be pronounced as /s=C3=A6t/, and &quot;sats&quot; (plural) =
should be pronounced as=C2=A0/s=C3=A6ts/ (rhyming with &quot;cats&quot;) by=
 screen readers and voice assistants. &quot;Satoshi&quot; (singular) is pro=
nounced /s=C9=99=CB=88to=CA=8A=CA=83i/. &quot;Satoshis&quot; (plural) is pr=
onounced /s=C9=99=CB=88to=CA=8A=CA=83iz/.=C2=A0</blockquote><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=C2=A0</blockquote><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Singular vs. Plural:<br>&quot;1 sat&quot; shou=
ld be read as &quot;one satoshi&quot; and &quot;100 sats&quot; as &quot;one=
 hundred satoshis&quot; to preserve correct pluralization and meaning. When=
 reading aloud:=C2=A0</blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex">=C2=A0</blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex">&quot;1 sat&quot; =E2=86=92 &quot;one satoshi&quot; =E2=86=92 /w=CA=8C=
n s=C9=99=CB=88to=CA=8A=CA=83i/<br>&quot;100 sats&quot; =E2=86=92 &quot;one=
 hundred satoshis&quot; =E2=86=92 /w=CA=8Cn =CB=88h=CA=8Cndr=C9=99d s=C9=99=
=CB=88to=CA=8A=CA=83iz/<br>=C2=A0<br>Readable Formats:<br>Prefer full terms=
 in accessibility modes (e.g., &quot;satoshis&quot; instead of &quot;sats&q=
uot;), and group digits to assist parsing (e.g., &quot;12,345&quot; instead=
 of &quot;12345&quot;).<br>=C2=A0<br>Contextual Labels:<br>Interfaces shoul=
d use clear alt-text or aria-labels such as:=C2=A0<i><font face=3D"monospac=
e">alt=3D&quot;Transaction fee: 14 satoshis per virtual byte&quot;.=C2=A0</=
font></i>=C2=A0This enables screen readers and other assistive technologies=
 to accurately interpret and communicate the content.</blockquote>=C2=A0<br=
>If this makes sense, I&#39;d be happy to help refine it or adjust to fit t=
he structure if necessary.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>References:=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://www.internation=
alphoneticalphabet.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" data-saferedirec=
turl=3D"https://www.google.com/url?hl=3Den-GB&amp;q=3Dhttps://www.internati=
onalphoneticalphabet.org&amp;source=3Dgmail&amp;ust=3D1746305239035000&amp;=
usg=3DAOvVaw3OJtq2893FjpgQdlJ9EXRo">https://www.internationalphoneticalphab=
et.org</a></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://tophonetics.com" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" data-saferedirecturl=3D"https://www.google.com=
/url?hl=3Den-GB&amp;q=3Dhttps://tophonetics.com&amp;source=3Dgmail&amp;ust=
=3D1746305239036000&amp;usg=3DAOvVaw2_R5_IMjzAm1w496cA2Og7">https://tophone=
tics.com</a><br><br>Peace,<br>Lucas.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">=
On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 11:16=E2=80=AFAM &#39;OceanSlim&#39; via Bitcoin De=
velopment Mailing List &lt;<a href data-email-masked rel=3D"nofollow">bitco=
...@googlegroups.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bord=
er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><p style=3D"color:rgb(=
0,0,0);font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px">To the Bitcoin developer communi=
ty,</p><p style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px">I&#=
39;m writing to propose a new Bitcoin Improvement Proposal (BIP) aimed at f=
ormally standardizing terminology for Bitcoin&#39;s smallest unit. This is =
an informational BIP that seeks to officially recognize &quot;satoshi&quot;=
 (singular) or &quot;satoshis&quot; (plural) as the standard term for 1/100=
,000,000 of a bitcoin, with &quot;sats&quot; as the standard abbreviation.<=
/p><p style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px">While t=
his terminology is already widely used throughout the Bitcoin ecosystem, no=
 formal standard exists, leading to inconsistent usage across applications,=
 documentation, and communications. This BIP seeks to formalize what has or=
ganically become common practice.<br><br>The BIP can already be viewed here=
:<br><a href=3D"https://deref-gmx.com/mail/client/rgLlibWjbIA/dereferrer/?r=
edirectUrl=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fbitcoin%2Fbips%2Fpull%2F1841" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" data-saferedirecturl=3D"https://www.google.co=
m/url?hl=3Den-GB&amp;q=3Dhttps://deref-gmx.com/mail/client/rgLlibWjbIA/dere=
ferrer/?redirectUrl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fgithub.com%252Fbitcoin%252Fbips%2=
52Fpull%252F1841&amp;source=3Dgmail&amp;ust=3D1746305239036000&amp;usg=3DAO=
vVaw1yQvap2Bb9MrPYS1kB-SDg">https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1841</a></=
p><p style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px">I&#39;d =
like to note that this proposal differs from BIP-176 (Bits Denomination) an=
d the recent BIP-177 proposal (Redefine Bitcoin&#39;s Base Unit). While tho=
se proposals suggest changing or adding denomination schemes, this BIP simp=
ly formalizes existing widely-used terminology without changing the underly=
ing unit structure.</p><p style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana;fon=
t-size:12px">I look forward to your feedback and suggestions.</p><p style=
=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px">Thank you,<br><br>=
OceanSlim<br>npub1zmc6qyqdfnllhnzzxr5wpepfpnzcf8q6m3jdveflmgruqvd3qa9sjv7f6=
0</p>

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