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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Reconsider build system change?
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On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Douglas Huff <dhuff@jrbobdobbs.org> wrote:
> On Jul 2, 2011, at 12:31 PM, John Smith wrote:
> > So, what about native build script generation for other platforms?
> autotools can only generate makefiles (with at least two intermediate code
> generation steps), which is quite limited.
>
> This would be true if gmake didn't build/run basically everywhere; but, it
> does.
>
It doesn't for the native build systems on at least Windows and OSX. Yes,
you can get gmake to run, but it's a hack.
> I would say that's actually a mark against cmake. If you need a gui to
> select build options because your cli doesn't have proper help output
> something is wrong.
>
You don't need to use the UI. It's just a convenience. Command line can
simply be used if you want.
> If you're willing to setup and maintain a cmake build environment I
> wouldn't say it should be rejected outright. Speculating about it without an
> implementation to compare seems like a waste of time.
>
As I said in my opening post, there *is* a cmake build system implemented
for bitcoin.
JS
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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Douglas Huff=
<span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:dhuff@jrbobdobbs.org">dhuff@jrbobd=
obbs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">On Jul 2, 2011, at 12:31 PM, John Smith wrote:<br>
> So, what about native build script generation for other platforms? aut=
otools can only generate makefiles (with at least two intermediate code gen=
eration steps), which is quite limited.<br>
<br>
</div>This would be true if gmake didn't build/run basically everywhere=
; but, it does.<br></blockquote><div><br>It doesn't for the native buil=
d systems on at least Windows and OSX. Yes, you can get gmake to run, but i=
t's a hack.<br>
=A0<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt=
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">I wo=
uld say that's actually a mark against cmake. If you need a gui to sele=
ct build options because your cli doesn't have proper help output somet=
hing is wrong.<br>
</blockquote><div><br>You don't need to use the UI. It's just a con=
venience. Command line can simply be used if you want.<br>=A0<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-le=
ft: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
If you're willing to setup and maintain a cmake build environment I wou=
ldn't say it should be rejected outright. Speculating about it without =
an implementation to compare seems like a waste of time.<br></blockquote>
<div><br>As I said in my opening post, there *is* a cmake build system impl=
emented for bitcoin.=A0
<br><br>JS<br></div></div>
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