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A million nodes saying a transaction is invalid does nothing to enforce that=
knowledge.
An economic node is a person who refuses to accept invalid money. A node onl=
y informs this decision, it cannot enforce it. That=E2=80=99s up to people.
And clearly if one is not actually accepting bitcoin for anything at the tim=
e, he is not enforcing anything.
The idea of a non-economic node is well established, nothing new here.
e
> On Jun 30, 2021, at 04:33, Zac Greenwood <zachgrw@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Hi Eric,
>=20
> > A node (software) doesn=E2=80=99t enforce anything. Merchants enforce co=
nsensus rules
>=20
> =E2=80=A6 by running a node which they believe to enforce the rules of Bit=
coin.
>=20
> A node definitely enforces consensus rules and defines what is Bitcoin. I a=
m quite disturbed that this is even being debated here.
>=20
> Zac
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">A million nodes saying a t=
ransaction is invalid does nothing to enforce that knowledge.</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">An economic node is a person who refuses to=
accept invalid money. A node only informs this decision, it cannot enforce i=
t. That=E2=80=99s up to people.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">And clearly if one is not actually accepting bitcoin for anything at th=
e time, he is not enforcing anything.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">The idea of a non-economic node is well established, nothing new h=
ere.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">e</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jun 30, 2021, at 04:33, Zac Greenwood <=
;zachgrw@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"auto">Hi Eric,</div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"border-color:rgb(0,0,0);col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)">> A node (software) doesn=E2=80=99t enforce anything. Merc=
hants enforce consensus rules</span><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D=
"border-color:rgb(0,0,0);color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></span></div><div style=3D"ba=
ckground-color:rgba(0,0,0,0)!important;border-color:rgb(255,255,255)!importa=
nt;color:rgb(255,255,255)!important" dir=3D"auto"><font style=3D"border-colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0);color:rgb(0,0,0)">=E2=80=A6 by running a node which they believ=
e to enforce the rules of Bitcoin.</font></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=
=3D"border-color:rgb(0,0,0);color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></span></div><div style=3D=
"background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0)!important;border-color:rgb(255,255,255)!impo=
rtant;color:rgb(255,255,255)!important" dir=3D"auto"><font style=3D"border-c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0);color:rgb(0,0,0)">A node definitely enforces consensus rules=
and defines what is Bitcoin. I am quite disturbed that</font><span style=3D=
"border-color:rgb(0,0,0);color:rgb(0,0,0)"> this is even being debated h=
ere.</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"border-color:rgb(0,0,0);co=
lor:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"border-col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);color:rgb(0,0,0)">Zac</span></div>
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