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While I like the idea of voting on the block size debate... Why is this
vote limited to miners only?
I would prefer to see a vote by owners/holders of bitcoin, not miners of
bitcoin.
If miners with 10%+ hashrate are the only ones who get to vote... bitcoin
development is an oligarchy
My 2cents
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:14 PM, odinn via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
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> This is great!! Thank you.
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> On 08/21/2015 06:24 AM, Christian Decker wrote:
> > I hacked together a simple tracking page for the 'block votes', it
> > currently includes the 8MB vote and XT, as well as the /BV\d+/ vote
> > for generic size: http://bitcoinstats.com/network/votes/
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 7:25 AM odinn via bitcoin-dev
> > <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
> > <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Nicolas,
> >
> > On 08/20/2015 08:49 PM, Nicolas Dorier via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> >>> A visualization I would like to see would include:
> >
> >>> pie graph(s) of what % are voting for (BIP 100, BIP 101, 8MB,
> >>> BIP sipa
> >> etc) based on what's published in blocks.
> >
> >> If such a vote existed, I would gladly show the pie on BIPxDevs.
> >> However there is no standard way for miners to vote informally
> >> BIP they support.
> >
> > What about formal votes? Is there a way to visually have them
> > appear in a pie chart as the votes become apparent in blocks?
> >
> > I appreciate good visualizations and am trying to get a (visual)
> > comparison of the votes on these competing proposals.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>While I like the idea of voting on the block size deb=
ate...=C2=A0 Why is this vote limited to miners only?<br><br></div>I would =
prefer to see a vote by owners/holders of bitcoin, not miners of bitcoin.<b=
r><div><br></div><div>If miners with 10%+ hashrate are the only ones who ge=
t to vote... bitcoin development is an oligarchy<br><br></div><div>My 2cent=
s<br></div><div><br></div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:14 PM, odinn via bitcoin-dev =
<span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.o=
rg" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>></span> =
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</span>This is great!! Thank you.<br>
<span class=3D""><br>
On 08/21/2015 06:24 AM, Christian Decker wrote:<br>
> I hacked together a simple tracking page for the 'block votes'=
, it<br>
> currently includes the 8MB vote and XT, as well as the /BV\d+/ vote<br=
>
> for generic size: <a href=3D"http://bitcoinstats.com/network/votes/" r=
el=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://bitcoinstats.com/network/votes/<=
/a><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 7:25 AM odinn via bitcoin-dev<br>
> <<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-d=
ev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br>
</span><span class=3D"">> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists=
.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>>> wro=
te:<br>
><br>
> Hello Nicolas,<br>
><br>
> On 08/20/2015 08:49 PM, Nicolas Dorier via bitcoin-dev wrote:<br>
>>> A visualization I would like to see would include:<br>
><br>
>>> pie graph(s) of what % are voting for (BIP 100, BIP 101, 8MB,<=
br>
>>> BIP sipa<br>
>> etc) based on what's published in blocks.<br>
><br>
>> If such a vote existed, I would gladly show the pie on BIPxDevs.<b=
r>
>> However there is no standard way for miners to vote informally<br>
>> BIP they support.<br>
><br>
> What about formal votes? Is there a way to visually have them<br>
> appear in a pie chart as the votes become apparent in blocks?<br>
><br>
> I appreciate good visualizations and am trying to get a (visual)<br>
> comparison of the votes on these competing proposals.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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