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Am i correct in the following interpretations?

- the utreexo bridge peers are the only real bitcoin nodes
- you cant use -only- libfloresta to be a node , you cant mine with it, you
cant do normal tx with it
- you are targetting webbrowsers (???? , i'm really confused about the why
of this)

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 9:11=E2=80=AFPM Davidson Souza via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> Hi, list. My name is Davidson, and I=E2=80=99m thrilled to share `libflor=
esta`
> with the Bitcoin devs mailing list!
>
> This is a derivate of a project I=E2=80=99ve been developing for a few mo=
nths,
> called `Floresta` (Portuguese for forest). An Utreexo powered,
> Fully-Validating Bitcoin Full node with integrated watch-only wallet and
> Electrum Server, meant to be a compact, simple, and ready to use full nod=
e
> for end users.
>
> After some feedbacks and thoughts, I=E2=80=99ve decided to turn it into a=
 series
> of reusable libs that can be used in other applications in a
> straightforward way. The main goal here is low-power devices, like SBC an=
d
> smartphones, but can be used in any environment. To achieve that, I=E2=80=
=99m
> writing the main logic in Rust and will generate bindings to the original
> code and compiling to WASM, allowing it to run virtually anywhere.
>
> The project is in an early stage, but I=E2=80=99m using it on signet for =
a while
> now with no problems. Mainnet support is almost ready, but we need to sol=
ve
> some performance issues with bridge nodes and set some up, so you can hav=
e
> utreexo peers.
>
>
> The project is available on [my GitHub](
> https://github.com/Davidson-Souza/Floresta) and I wrote an initial
> [blogpost](https://blog.dlsouza.lol/2023/07/07/libfloresta.html)
> explaining how to use it (in Rust). I=E2=80=99ll write more as the projec=
t matures,
> and I get it running on other platforms. Any feedback is welcome!
>
> ## Consensus
>
>
> I know that alternative implementations is a spicy subject in Bitcoin
> land, but this project **does not** reimplement the Bitcoin Consensus
> machine from scratch. I=E2=80=99m using `libbitcoinconsenus` and plan to =
use the
> full `libbitcoinkernel` in the future. While this doesn=E2=80=99t guarant=
ee
> consistency, it minimizes misimplementations leading to splits.
>
>
> I=E2=80=99m also making an extra effort into cross-test against Bitcoin C=
ore to
> find any inconsistencies before it causes any trouble.
>
> ## Acknowledges
>
> A special thanks to [Vinteum](https://vinteum.org/) for supporting my
> work with utreexo and Floresta.
>
> Best regards,
> Davidson Souza.
> _______________________________________________
> bitcoin-dev mailing list
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Am i correct in the following interpretations?<br><br>- th=
e utreexo bridge peers are the only real bitcoin nodes<div>- you cant use -=
only- libfloresta to be a node , you cant mine with it, you cant do normal =
tx with it</div><div>- you are targetting webbrowsers (???? , i&#39;m reall=
y confused about the why of this)</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 9:11=E2=80=
=AFPM Davidson Souza via bitcoin-dev &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@list=
s.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"m=
sg-3408646806615099262">




<div dir=3D"ltr">
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:=
none;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Hi, list. My name is Davidson, and I=E2=80=99m thril=
led to share `libfloresta` with the
 Bitcoin devs mailing list!</span></p>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decora=
tion:none;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decora=
tion:none;color:rgb(0,0,0)">This is a derivate of a project I=E2=80=99ve be=
en developing for a few months, called `Floresta` (Portuguese for forest). =
An Utreexo
 powered, Fully-Validating Bitcoin Full node with integrated watch-only wal=
let and Electrum Server, meant to be a compact, simple, and ready to use fu=
ll node for end users.
<br>
</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decora=
tion:none;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decora=
tion:none;color:rgb(0,0,0)">After some feedbacks and thoughts, I=E2=80=99ve=
 decided to turn it into a series of reusable libs that can be used in othe=
r applications
 in a straightforward way. The main goal here is low-power devices, like SB=
C and smartphones, but can be used in any environment. To achieve that, I=
=E2=80=99m writing the main logic in Rust and will generate bindings to the=
 original code and compiling to WASM, allowing
 it to run virtually anywhere.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decora=
tion:none;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
</span></div>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:=
none;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span></span></span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,0,0)">The
 project is in an early stage, but I=E2=80=99m using it on signet for a whi=
le now with no problems. Mainnet support is almost ready, but we need to so=
lve some performance issues with bridge nodes and set some up, so you can h=
ave utreexo peers.</span></p>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:=
none;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
</span></p>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:=
none;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span></span></span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,0,0)">The
 project is available on [my GitHub](</span><a href=3D"https://github.com/D=
avidson-Souza/Floresta" style=3D"text-decoration:none" target=3D"_blank"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:un=
derline;color:rgb(17,85,204)">https://github.com/Davidson-Souza/Floresta</s=
pan></a><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-dec=
oration:none;color:rgb(0,0,0)">)
 and I wrote an initial [blogpost](<a href=3D"https://blog.dlsouza.lol/2023=
/07/07/libfloresta.html" target=3D"_blank">https://blog.dlsouza.lol/2023/07=
/07/libfloresta.html</a>) explaining how to use it (in Rust). I=E2=80=99ll =
write more as the project matures, and I get it running on other platforms.=
 Any feedback is welcome!</span></p>
<br>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:=
none;color:rgb(0,0,0)">## Consensus</span></p>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:=
none;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
</span></p>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:=
none;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span></span></span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I
 know that alternative implementations is a spicy subject in Bitcoin land, =
but this project **does not** reimplement the Bitcoin Consensus machine fro=
m scratch. I=E2=80=99m using `libbitcoinconsenus` and plan to use the full =
`libbitcoinkernel` in the future. While
 this doesn=E2=80=99t guarantee consistency, it minimizes misimplementation=
s leading to splits.</span></p>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:=
none;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
</span></p>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:=
none;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span></span></span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I=E2=80=
=99m
 also making an extra effort into cross-test against Bitcoin Core to find a=
ny inconsistencies before it causes any trouble.</span></p>
<br>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:=
none;color:rgb(0,0,0)">## Acknowledges</span></p>
<br>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:=
none;color:rgb(0,0,0)">A special thanks to [Vinteum](<a href=3D"https://vin=
teum.org/" target=3D"_blank">https://vinteum.org/</a>) for supporting my wo=
rk with
 utreexo and Floresta.</span></p>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
Best regards,</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
Davidson Souza.<br>
</div>
</div>

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