1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
|
Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192]
helo=mx.sourceforge.net)
by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76)
(envelope-from <gcbd-bitcoin-development@m.gmane.org>)
id 1WwB7r-0000wI-N3 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net;
Sun, 15 Jun 2014 14:09:39 +0000
Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of m.gmane.org
designates 80.91.229.3 as permitted sender)
client-ip=80.91.229.3;
envelope-from=gcbd-bitcoin-development@m.gmane.org;
helo=plane.gmane.org;
Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3])
by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256)
(Exim 4.76) id 1WwB7p-0001p9-SO
for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net;
Sun, 15 Jun 2014 14:09:39 +0000
Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69)
(envelope-from <gcbd-bitcoin-development@m.gmane.org>)
id 1WwB7h-0000U9-Qx for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net;
Sun, 15 Jun 2014 16:09:29 +0200
Received: from 93-35-10-132.ip52.fastwebnet.it ([93.35.10.132])
by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian))
id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>;
Sun, 15 Jun 2014 16:09:29 +0200
Received: from lawrence by 93-35-10-132.ip52.fastwebnet.it with local (Gmexim
0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00
for <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>;
Sun, 15 Jun 2014 16:09:29 +0200
X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/
To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
From: Lawrence Nahum <lawrence@greenaddress.it>
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 14:09:19 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <loom.20140615T155152-521@post.gmane.org>
References: <CAKrJrGOBSiY5V59eko6g796j3wh9V9ZLjPbyHeS5=zyX6j3Wdw@mail.gmail.com> <lnhgsk$va6$1@ger.gmane.org>
<loom.20140615T111027-736@post.gmane.org>
<lnk4ii$ehf$1@ger.gmane.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org
X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org
User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/)
X-Loom-IP: 93.35.10.132 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11;
Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko)
Chrome/35.0.1916.114 Safari/537.36)
X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--)
X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net.
See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details.
-1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for
sender-domain
-0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/,
no trust [80.91.229.3 listed in list.dnswl.org]
-0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record
-0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record
-0.7 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay
domain
X-Headers-End: 1WwB7p-0001p9-SO
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] instant confirmation via payment protocol
backwards compatible proto buffer extension
X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>,
<mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development>
List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>,
<mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 14:09:39 -0000
Andreas Schildbach <andreas <at> schildbach.de> writes:
> Generally I like the simplicity of this BIP. Still, I have more questions:
>
> What is the use of the Transactions message? Note the Payment message
> already contains a transactions field that could be signed.
Transactions message sole purpose is to allow easy signing of all
transactions
i don't think you can serialise a single field
maybe i missed something, not sure
> Can you
> briefly describe the whole flow of messages on an example, including the
> BIP70 messages?
I'll get back to the list with something tomorrow,
can be useful in the BIP as an example anyway I guess.
> Should we allow adding multiple signatures (from different instant
> providers
maybe in some different scheme of "instantness" that could be useful,
although i wonder if it's possible to keep the BIP simple with
such non immediately obvious use cases.
> or maybe while transitioning to another PKI)?
another PKI, not sure, I understand there are already somewhat weak industry
schemes to revoke.
I do wonder if there's any better and more "future proof" way.
I'll think about it but for now I hope someone with more experience can
share some insight.
|