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>Anyone who doesn't consider governments the proper threat model is either a shill or an idiot.

You meant to say "threat". This is what threat model is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threat_model

Nobody here discounts governments as a threat.

As to the "proper threat model", you can't construct one since your attacker is essentially unbounded.

For example, any large government could easily obtain 51% of hash power and then only accept transactions from "certified services".