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What's special about block 475776?
On July 13, 2017 12:23:46 PM Sergio Demian Lerner via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> The BIP has been updated.
>
> Changes:
> - The technical spec has been improved: now the block size increase is
> specified in terms of weight and not in terms of bytes.
> - The increase in the maximum block sigops after HF has been documented.
> - Comments added about the worst case block size.
>
> Happy weekend! And don't forget to start signaling something before block
> 475776 ! It's just 90 blocks away.
> Bit 1 or 4,1 or whatever you wish, but please signal something.
>
> To the moon!
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
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>>
>>
>> On 12 Jul 2017 2:31 pm, "Tom Zander via bitcoin-dev" <bitcoin-dev@lists.
>> linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, 10 July 2017 20:38:08 CEST Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev wrote:
>> > I think anything less than 1 year after release of tested code by some
>> > implementation would be irresponsible for any hardfork, even a very
>> > simple one.
>>
>> Good news!
>>
>> Code to support 2x (the hard fork part of the proposal) has been out and
>> tested for much longer than that.
>>
>>
>> Not true. It's different code on top of segwit. The first attempt in btc1
>> (very recent) didn't even increased the size (because it changed the
>> meaningless "base size" without touching the weight limit. As for the
>> current code, I don't think it has been properly tested today, let alone
>> "for mucj longer than 1 year.
>> Anyway, I said, one year from tested release. Segwitx2 hasn't been
>> released, has it? If so, too late to discuss a bip imo, the bip may end up
>> being different from what has been released due to feedback (unless it is
>> ignored again, of course).
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>> --
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<p
style="color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; margin: 10pt 0;">On
July 13, 2017 12:23:46 PM Sergio Demian Lerner via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:</p>
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style="margin: 0 0 0 0.75ex; border-left: 1px solid #808080; padding-left: 0.75ex;">
<div dir="ltr">The BIP has been
updated.<div><br></div><div>Changes:<br><div>- The technical spec has been
improved: now the block size increase is specified in terms of weight and
not in terms of bytes.</div><div>- The increase in the maximum block sigops
after HF has been documented.</div><div>- Comments added about the worst
case block size.</div><div><br></div><div>Happy weekend! And don't
forget to start signaling something before block 475776 ! It's just 90
blocks away.</div><div>Bit 1 or 4,1 or whatever you wish, but please signal
something.</div><div><br></div><div>To the
moon!</div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div
class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Jorge Timón via
bitcoin-dev <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
target="_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div
dir="auto"><span class=""><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div
class="gmail_quote">On 12 Jul 2017 2:31 pm, "Tom Zander via
bitcoin-dev" <<a
href="mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
target="_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.<wbr>linuxfoundation.org</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_7641680335976316197quote"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div
class="m_7641680335976316197quoted-text">On Monday, 10 July 2017 20:38:08
CEST Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev wrote:<br>
> I think anything less than 1 year after release of tested code by some<br>
> implementation would be irresponsible for any hardfork, even a very<br>
> simple one.<br>
<br>
</div>Good news!<br>
<br>
Code to support 2x (the hard fork part of the proposal) has been out and<br>
tested for much longer than that.<br></blockquote></div></div></div><div
dir="auto"><br></div></span><div dir="auto">Not true. It's different
code on top of segwit. The first attempt in btc1 (very recent) didn't
even increased the size (because it changed the meaningless "base
size" without touching the weight limit. As for the current code, I
don't think it has been properly tested today, let alone "for mucj
longer than 1 year.</div><div dir="auto">Anyway, I said, one year from
tested release. Segwitx2 hasn't been released, has it? If so, too late
to discuss a bip imo, the bip may end up being different from what has been
released due to feedback (unless it is ignored again, of
course).</div><span class=""><div dir="auto"><br></div><div
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div
class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="m_7641680335976316197quote"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<font color="#888888">--<br>
Tom Zander<br>
Blog: <a href="https://zander.github.io" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">https://zander.github.io</a><br>
Vlog: <a href="https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel"
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