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And this is why I love Bitcoin, politics + technical =3D all in one.

Regards,
Theo Chino
https://www.facebook.com/groups/557495624389384 (politics in NYS about
bitcoin.)
http://frenchmorning.com/en/2014/08/18/french-robin-hood-bitcoin-new-york

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Hector Chu via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> Haha. Reminds me of when I asked Gavin earlier this year about whether
> he cared about politics and he replied that he only cared about and
> was responsible for the technicals. Little did he know he would
> unwittingly become the technical enabler for Mike's political
> shenanigans.
>
> On 19 August 2015 at 21:19, Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev
> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being
> governed
> > by those who are dumber.
> > - Plato
> >
> > On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Alex,
> >
> > With all due respect, right now the biggest challenge facing Bitcoin is
> not
> > technical but political. I would love to see this list go back to
> technical
> > discussions, but unfortunately, until this political stuff is resolved,
> even
> > technical discussion is purely philosophical as there=E2=80=99s little =
chance of
> > actually making good progress on consensus=E2=80=A6which in a space whe=
re
> everything
> > depends on consensus pretty much makes everything else moot.
> >
> > On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Alex Morcos via bitcoin-dev
> > <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > This is a message that I wrote and had hoped that all the core devs wou=
ld
> > sign on to, but I failed to finish organizing it.  So I'll just say it
> from
> > myself.
> >
> > There has been a valuable discussion over the last several months
> regarding
> > a hard fork with respect to block size.  However the sheer volume of
> email
> > and proportion of discussion that is more philosophical than technical
> has
> > rendered this list almost unusable for its primary purpose of technical
> > discussion related to Bitcoin development.  Many of us share the blame
> for
> > letting the discourse run off topic to such a degree, and we hope that =
an
> > appeal for individual self restraint will allow this list to return to =
a
> > higher signal-to-noise ratio.
> > -Please consider the degree to which any email you send is related to
> > technical development before sending it.
> > -Please consider how many emails you are sending to this list regarding
> the
> > same topic.
> > This list is not appropriate for an endless back and forth debate on th=
e
> > philosophical underpinnings of Bitcoin.  Although such a debate may be
> > worthwhile it should be taken to another forum for discussion.  Every
> email
> > you send is received by hundreds of developers who value their time as
> much
> > as you value yours.  If your intended audience isn't really the majorit=
y
> of
> > them, perhaps private communication would be more appropriate.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alex
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
> > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
> >
> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div>And this is why I love Bitcoin, politi=
cs + technical =3D all in one.<br></div><br></div>Regards,<br></div>Theo Ch=
ino<br></div><a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/groups/557495624389384">ht=
tps://www.facebook.com/groups/557495624389384</a> (politics in NYS about bi=
tcoin.)<br><font size=3D"1"><a href=3D"http://frenchmorning.com/en/2014/08/=
18/french-robin-hood-bitcoin-new-york">http://frenchmorning.com/en/2014/08/=
18/french-robin-hood-bitcoin-new-york</a></font><br></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:19 PM, H=
ector Chu via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-d=
ev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoun=
dation.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Haha. Re=
minds me of when I asked Gavin earlier this year about whether<br>
he cared about politics and he replied that he only cared about and<br>
was responsible for the technicals. Little did he know he would<br>
unwittingly become the technical enabler for Mike&#39;s political<br>
shenanigans.<br>
<br>
On 19 August 2015 at 21:19, Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@l=
ists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br>
&gt; Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being go=
verned<br>
&gt; by those who are dumber.<br>
&gt; - Plato<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Eric Lombrozo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:elomb=
rozo@gmail.com">elombrozo@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Alex,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; With all due respect, right now the biggest challenge facing Bitcoin i=
s not<br>
&gt; technical but political. I would love to see this list go back to tech=
nical<br>
&gt; discussions, but unfortunately, until this political stuff is resolved=
, even<br>
&gt; technical discussion is purely philosophical as there=E2=80=99s little=
 chance of<br>
&gt; actually making good progress on consensus=E2=80=A6which in a space wh=
ere everything<br>
&gt; depends on consensus pretty much makes everything else moot.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Alex Morcos via bitcoin-dev<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-d=
ev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; This is a message that I wrote and had hoped that all the core devs wo=
uld<br>
&gt; sign on to, but I failed to finish organizing it.=C2=A0 So I&#39;ll ju=
st say it from<br>
&gt; myself.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; There has been a valuable discussion over the last several months rega=
rding<br>
&gt; a hard fork with respect to block size.=C2=A0 However the sheer volume=
 of email<br>
&gt; and proportion of discussion that is more philosophical than technical=
 has<br>
&gt; rendered this list almost unusable for its primary purpose of technica=
l<br>
&gt; discussion related to Bitcoin development.=C2=A0 Many of us share the =
blame for<br>
&gt; letting the discourse run off topic to such a degree, and we hope that=
 an<br>
&gt; appeal for individual self restraint will allow this list to return to=
 a<br>
&gt; higher signal-to-noise ratio.<br>
&gt; -Please consider the degree to which any email you send is related to<=
br>
&gt; technical development before sending it.<br>
&gt; -Please consider how many emails you are sending to this list regardin=
g the<br>
&gt; same topic.<br>
&gt; This list is not appropriate for an endless back and forth debate on t=
he<br>
&gt; philosophical underpinnings of Bitcoin.=C2=A0 Although such a debate m=
ay be<br>
&gt; worthwhile it should be taken to another forum for discussion.=C2=A0 E=
very email<br>
&gt; you send is received by hundreds of developers who value their time as=
 much<br>
&gt; as you value yours.=C2=A0 If your intended audience isn&#39;t really t=
he majority of<br>
&gt; them, perhaps private communication would be more appropriate.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt; Alex<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@l=
ists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-=
dev" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org=
/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@l=
ists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-=
dev" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org=
/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br>
&gt;<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
bitcoin-dev mailing list<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.=
linuxfoundation.org</a><br>
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rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mail=
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