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Sorr, I thought there was some BIP for a public seed such that someone can
generate new random addresses, but cannot trivially verify whether an
address was derived from the seed.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Erik Aronesty via bitcoin-dev
> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > By sending a public seed, there's no way for someone to use the
> transmitted
> > address and trace the total amount of payments to it.
>
> Worse. By revealing a public seed, anyone who has seen it (= anyone
> who ever pays you through it) can identity all payments to _any_
> address derived from that seed.
>
> --
> Pieter
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sorr, I thought there was some BIP for a public seed such =
that someone can generate new random addresses, but cannot trivially verify=
whether an address was derived from the seed.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Pie=
ter Wuille <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:pieter.wuille@gmail.com"=
target=3D"_blank">pieter.wuille@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 7:28 PM, E=
rik Aronesty via bitcoin-dev<br>
<<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@li=
sts.<wbr>linuxfoundation.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> By sending a public seed,=C2=A0 there's no way for someone to use =
the transmitted<br>
> address and trace the total amount of payments to it.<br>
<br>
</span>Worse. By revealing a public seed, anyone who has seen it (=3D anyon=
e<br>
who ever pays you through it) can identity all payments to _any_<br>
address derived from that seed.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
--<br>
Pieter<br>
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