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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposed alternatives to the 20MB step
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On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 4:36 AM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com> wrote:
> An example would
> be tx_size = MAX( real_size >> 1, real_size + 4*utxo_created_size -
> 3*utxo_consumed_size).
This could be implemented as a soft fork too.
* 1MB hard size limit
* 900kB soft limit
S = block size
U = UTXO_adjusted_size = S + 4 * outputs - 3 * inputs
A block is valid if S < 1MB and U < 1MB
A 250 byte transaction with 2 inputs and 2 outputs would have an adjusted
size of 252 bytes.
The memory pool could be sorted by fee per adjusted_size.
Coin selection could be adjusted so it tries to have at least 2 inputs
when creating transactions, unless the input is worth more than a threshold
(say 0.001 BTC).
This is a pretty weak incentive, especially if the block size is
increased. Maybe it will cause a "nudge"
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at, May 9, 2015 at 4:36 AM, Gregory Maxwell <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:gmaxwell@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gmaxwell@gmail.com</a>>=
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8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">An example would<br>
be tx_size =3D MAX( real_size >> 1,=C2=A0 real_size + 4*utxo_created_=
size -<br>
3*utxo_consumed_size).=C2=A0</blockquote><div><br></div><div>This could be =
implemented as a soft fork too.<br><br></div><div>* 1MB hard size limit<br>=
</div><div>* 900kB soft limit<br><br></div><div>S =3D block size<br></div><=
div>U =3D UTXO_adjusted_size =3D S + 4 * outputs - 3 * inputs<br><br></div>=
<div></div><div>A block is valid if S < 1MB and U < 1MB<br><br>A 250 =
byte transaction with 2 inputs and 2 outputs would have an adjusted size of=
252 bytes.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The memory pool could be sorted by=
fee per adjusted_size.=C2=A0 <br></div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0Coin sele=
ction could be adjusted so it tries to have at least 2 inputs when creating=
transactions, unless the input is worth more than a threshold (say 0.001 B=
TC).<br><br></div><div>This is a pretty weak incentive, especially if the b=
lock size is increased.=C2=A0 Maybe it will cause a "nudge"<br></=
div></div></div></div>
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