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Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Demonstrating Pinning Attacks under Real-World Conditions
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> That also happens to be my Alice OpenTimestamps calendar, in production,
so
> please don't do anything you expect to be CPU or RAM intensive. But if yo=
u
> accidentally take down the server, not the end of the world: OTS is a ver=
y
> redundant protocol and one calendar going down for a few hours is
unlikely to
> do any harm.
>
> It has about $400 of outgoing capacity at the moment, and $2000 inbound.
It
> gets hardly any donations at the moment, so if you manage to knock LND
offline
> that's no big deal.
>
> That's not my money - it's donations to the OTS calendars that I have no
right
> to spend - so I'll ask you to pay for any expenses incurred by it during
> testing, and make a $100 net donation when you're done testing to make it
> worthwhile for the OTS community. If you manage to lose more than that on
> justice transactions, I'll consider that a donation. :)

Many thanks Peter for that.

No worries, I won't play with CPU or RAM, it's just all the
transaction-relay
and mempool logic that one can interfere with. I'll make you whole of the
$2400
if the LND node goes down too hard, though I'm just looking for a node
running
on mainnet, for a pinning the attacker has two open to channels and
re-balance
the liquidity at its advantage a bit. I'll provide the liquidity by myself.

If you have an on-chain donation address on the OTS website (?), I'll make =
a
$100 donation now, it's a nice tool. And for the justice transaction...well
for some scenarios you can use the latest valid commitment state to pin no
risk
of being slashed by a justice transaction.

Best,
Antoine
ots hash: 19d9b61ed5238e2922205a0a0194e0830b260a691f45b4189b1d145f72c9e031

Le mar. 3 sept. 2024 =C3=A0 13:58, Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> a =C3=A9=
crit :

> On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 02:10:15PM -0700, Antoine Riard wrote:
> > My utmost pleasure to demonstrate some pinning attacks on nodes under
> > real-world conditions.
>
> Antoine Riard: until Oct 1st, you have permission to test your attacks
> against
> my Lightning node running at:
>
>
> 023345274dd80a01c0e80ec48928188783f9bc5281be8f5057c050492f10711a5b@alice.=
opentimestamps.org:9735
>
> That also happens to be my Alice OpenTimestamps calendar, in production, =
so
> please don't do anything you expect to be CPU or RAM intensive. But if yo=
u
> accidentally take down the server, not the end of the world: OTS is a ver=
y
> redundant protocol and one calendar going down for a few hours is unlikel=
y
> to
> do any harm.
>
> It has about $400 of outgoing capacity at the moment, and $2000 inbound. =
It
> gets hardly any donations at the moment, so if you manage to knock LND
> offline
> that's no big deal.
>
> That's not my money - it's donations to the OTS calendars that I have no
> right
> to spend - so I'll ask you to pay for any expenses incurred by it during
> testing, and make a $100 net donation when you're done testing to make it
> worthwhile for the OTS community. If you manage to lose more than that on
> justice transactions, I'll consider that a donation. :)
>
> --
> https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; That also happens to be my Alice OpenTimestamps calen=
dar, in production, so<br>&gt; please don&#39;t do anything you expect to b=
e CPU or RAM intensive. But if you<br>&gt; accidentally take down the serve=
r, not the end of the world: OTS is a very<br>&gt; redundant protocol and o=
ne calendar going down for a few hours is unlikely to<br>&gt; do any harm.<=
br>&gt; <br>&gt; It has about $400 of outgoing capacity at the moment, and =
$2000 inbound. It<br>&gt; gets hardly any donations at the moment, so if yo=
u manage to knock LND offline<br>&gt; that&#39;s no big deal.<br>&gt; <br>&=
gt; That&#39;s not my money - it&#39;s donations to the OTS calendars that =
I have no right<br>&gt; to spend - so I&#39;ll ask you to pay for any expen=
ses incurred by it during<br>&gt; testing, and make a $100 net donation whe=
n you&#39;re done testing to make it<br>&gt; worthwhile for the OTS communi=
ty. If you manage to lose more than that on<br>&gt; justice transactions, I=
&#39;ll consider that a donation. :)<br><br>Many thanks Peter for that.<br>=
<br>No worries, I won&#39;t play with CPU or RAM, it&#39;s just all the tra=
nsaction-relay<br>and mempool logic that one can interfere with. I&#39;ll m=
ake you whole of the $2400<br>if the LND node goes down too hard, though I&=
#39;m just looking for a node running<br>on mainnet, for a pinning the atta=
cker has two open to channels and re-balance<br>the liquidity at its advant=
age a bit. I&#39;ll provide the liquidity by myself.<br><br>If you have an =
on-chain donation address on the OTS website (?), I&#39;ll make a<br>$100 d=
onation now, it&#39;s a nice tool. And for the justice transaction...well<b=
r>for some scenarios you can use the latest valid commitment state to pin n=
o risk<br>of being slashed by a justice transaction.<br><br>Best,<br>Antoin=
e<br>ots hash: 19d9b61ed5238e2922205a0a0194e0830b260a691f45b4189b1d145f72c9=
e031<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmai=
l_attr">Le=C2=A0mar. 3 sept. 2024 =C3=A0=C2=A013:58, Peter Todd &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:pete@petertodd.org">pete@petertodd.org</a>&gt; a =C3=A9crit=C2=
=A0:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(=
204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 02:10:15PM -0700, An=
toine Riard wrote:<br>
&gt; My utmost pleasure to demonstrate some pinning attacks on nodes under =
<br>
&gt; real-world conditions.<br>
<br>
Antoine Riard: until Oct 1st, you have permission to test your attacks agai=
nst<br>
my Lightning node running at:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://023345274dd80a01c0e80ec48928188783f9bc5281b=
e8f5057c050492f10711a5b@alice.opentimestamps.org:9735" rel=3D"noreferrer" t=
arget=3D"_blank">023345274dd80a01c0e80ec48928188783f9bc5281be8f5057c050492f=
10711a5b@alice.opentimestamps.org:9735</a><br>
<br>
That also happens to be my Alice OpenTimestamps calendar, in production, so=
<br>
please don&#39;t do anything you expect to be CPU or RAM intensive. But if =
you<br>
accidentally take down the server, not the end of the world: OTS is a very<=
br>
redundant protocol and one calendar going down for a few hours is unlikely =
to<br>
do any harm.<br>
<br>
It has about $400 of outgoing capacity at the moment, and $2000 inbound. It=
<br>
gets hardly any donations at the moment, so if you manage to knock LND offl=
ine<br>
that&#39;s no big deal.<br>
<br>
That&#39;s not my money - it&#39;s donations to the OTS calendars that I ha=
ve no right<br>
to spend - so I&#39;ll ask you to pay for any expenses incurred by it durin=
g<br>
testing, and make a $100 net donation when you&#39;re done testing to make =
it<br>
worthwhile for the OTS community. If you manage to lose more than that on<b=
r>
justice transactions, I&#39;ll consider that a donation. :)<br>
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