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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP 102 - kick the can down the road to 2MB
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Transaction sizes are still limited to 1MB with this patch. While this
isn't technically a change, it does mean that both are no longer linked
together.
Since this has no voting step, I assume the intention is that as a
compromise suggestion, it would have full support.
It establishes a precedent for hard forks not to require a vote though.
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Jeff Garzik via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> Opening a mailing list thread on this BIP:
>
> BIP PR: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/173
> Code PR: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6451
>
> The general intent of this BIP is as a minimum viable alternative plan to
> my preferred proposal (BIP 100).
>
> If agreement is not reached on a more comprehensive solution, then this
> solution is at least available and a known quantity. A good backup plan.
>
> Benefits: conservative increase. proves network can upgrade. permits
> some added growth, while the community & market gathers data on how an
> increased block size impacts privacy, security, centralization, transaction
> throughput and other metrics. 2MB seems to be a Least Common Denominator
> on an increase.
>
> Costs: requires a hard fork. requires another hard fork down the road.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Transaction sizes are still limited to 1MB with =
this patch.=C2=A0 While this isn't technically a change, it does mean t=
hat both are no longer linked together.<br><br></div>Since this has no voti=
ng step, I assume the intention is that as a compromise suggestion, it woul=
d have full support.<br><br></div>It establishes a precedent for hard forks=
not to require a vote though.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div=
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Jeff Garzik via bit=
coin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfou=
ndation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>>=
;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Ope=
ning a mailing list thread on this BIP:</div><div><br></div>BIP PR:=C2=A0<a=
href=3D"https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/173" target=3D"_blank">https:=
//github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/173</a><div>Code PR:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https:/=
/github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6451" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com=
/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6451</a></div><div><br></div><div>The general intent =
of this BIP is as a minimum viable alternative plan to my preferred proposa=
l (BIP 100).</div><div><br></div><div>If agreement is not reached on a more=
comprehensive solution, then this solution is at least available and a kno=
wn quantity.=C2=A0 A good backup plan.</div><div><br></div><div>Benefits: =
=C2=A0conservative increase. =C2=A0proves network can upgrade. =C2=A0permit=
s some added growth, while the community & market gathers data on how a=
n increased block size impacts privacy, security, centralization, transacti=
on throughput and other metrics. =C2=A02MB seems to be a Least Common Denom=
inator on an increase.</div><div><br></div><div>Costs: =C2=A0requires a har=
d fork. =C2=A0requires another hard fork down the road.</div><div><br></div=
><div><br></div></div>
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