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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] DNS seeds unstable
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Well, it's possible theoretically, but will need another piece of custom
software that will understand DNS protocol and proxy it correctly based on
actual incoming DNS queries.
On 19 May 2014 21:22, "Michael Wozniak" <mw@osfda.org> wrote:

> I=E2=80=99m not familiar with how the daemon works, however could you set=
 up two
> daemons listening local on different ports and with a separate daemon or
> normal dns server that proxies incoming queries to either domain? I don=
=E2=80=99t
> know if standard DNS servers would support that, or if you would need a
> custom proxy application.
>
> -
> Michael Wozniak
>
>
> On May 19, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Alex Kotenko <alexykot@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hmm, I've mostly setup what's promised, testing DNS seeds now. There is
> one problem I see that I can't really solve myself.
> > This dnsseed daemon cannot serve more than one name at once, which mean=
s
> that I cannot serve testnet and mainnet seeds off one daemon instance whi=
ch
> means I need to buy two IP addresses for it. That's unfortunate as it nee=
ds
> much more spendings from me to operate, second IP address will cost nearl=
y
> as much as the server itself.
> >
> > =E2=80=8BCan anybody help with this? I cannot into C++ to fix that myse=
lf.   =E2=80=8B
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Alex Kotenko
> >
> >
> > 2014-05-17 13:39 GMT+01:00 Andreas Schildbach <andreas@schildbach.de>:
> > On 05/17/2014 02:02 PM, Alex Kotenko wrote:
> >
> > > So, my understanding is that atm we have no working DNS seeds at the
> > > testnet3, right? There are two DNS seeds known, of which one is
> > > unreachable atm, and another one is giving just one IP address, which
> is
> > > also a dead node.
> >
> > Yes, that's my understanding too.
> >
> > > If I'll start a DNS seed of my own and make sure it works well, will
> > > this help?
> >
> > Yes, definately.
> >
> > > I've found this DNS seeder daemon
> > > <https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin-seeder>, and it seems to be exactly
> > > what I need to run a DNS seeder myself.
> >
> > Afaik this is what most of the other seeds are using, yes.
> >
> > > So if my understanding is correct, I'll setup a DNS seeds for mainnet
> > > and for testnet at bitcoin-seed.alexykot.me
> > > <http://bitcoin-seed.alexykot.me> and testnet-seed.alexykot.me
> > > <http://testnet-seed.alexykot.me>, and also a well connected nodes fo=
r
> > > mainnet and testnet on the same server.
> > > Is this a good plan? Will this all help?
> >
> > Sound great! Let me know if you've got something to test.
> >
> >
> >
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Well, it&#39;s possible theoretically, but will need another=
 piece of custom software that will understand DNS protocol and proxy it co=
rrectly based on actual incoming DNS queries. </p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 19 May 2014 21:22, &quot;Michael Wozniak&quot=
; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mw@osfda.org">mw@osfda.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=
=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I=E2=80=99m not familiar with how the daemon works, however could you set u=
p two daemons listening local on different ports and with a separate daemon=
 or normal dns server that proxies incoming queries to either domain? I don=
=E2=80=99t know if standard DNS servers would support that, or if you would=
 need a custom proxy application.<br>

<br>
-<br>
Michael Wozniak<br>
<br>
<br>
On May 19, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Alex Kotenko &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alexykot@gm=
ail.com">alexykot@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Hmm, I&#39;ve mostly setup what&#39;s promised, testing DNS seeds now.=
 There is one problem I see that I can&#39;t really solve myself.<br>
&gt; This dnsseed daemon cannot serve more than one name at once, which mea=
ns that I cannot serve testnet and mainnet seeds off one daemon instance wh=
ich means I need to buy two IP addresses for it. That&#39;s unfortunate as =
it needs much more spendings from me to operate, second IP address will cos=
t nearly as much as the server itself.<br>

&gt;<br>
&gt; =E2=80=8BCan anybody help with this? I cannot into C++ to fix that mys=
elf. =C2=A0 =E2=80=8B<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Best regards,<br>
&gt; Alex Kotenko<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2014-05-17 13:39 GMT+01:00 Andreas Schildbach &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:an=
dreas@schildbach.de">andreas@schildbach.de</a>&gt;:<br>
&gt; On 05/17/2014 02:02 PM, Alex Kotenko wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; So, my understanding is that atm we have no working DNS seeds at =
the<br>
&gt; &gt; testnet3, right? There are two DNS seeds known, of which one is<b=
r>
&gt; &gt; unreachable atm, and another one is giving just one IP address, w=
hich is<br>
&gt; &gt; also a dead node.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Yes, that&#39;s my understanding too.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; If I&#39;ll start a DNS seed of my own and make sure it works wel=
l, will<br>
&gt; &gt; this help?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Yes, definately.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I&#39;ve found this DNS seeder daemon<br>
&gt; &gt; &lt;<a href=3D"https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin-seeder" target=3D"=
_blank">https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin-seeder</a>&gt;, and it seems to be =
exactly<br>
&gt; &gt; what I need to run a DNS seeder myself.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Afaik this is what most of the other seeds are using, yes.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; So if my understanding is correct, I&#39;ll setup a DNS seeds for=
 mainnet<br>
&gt; &gt; and for testnet at <a href=3D"http://bitcoin-seed.alexykot.me" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">bitcoin-seed.alexykot.me</a><br>
&gt; &gt; &lt;<a href=3D"http://bitcoin-seed.alexykot.me" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://bitcoin-seed.alexykot.me</a>&gt; and <a href=3D"http://testnet-seed=
.alexykot.me" target=3D"_blank">testnet-seed.alexykot.me</a><br>
&gt; &gt; &lt;<a href=3D"http://testnet-seed.alexykot.me" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://testnet-seed.alexykot.me</a>&gt;, and also a well connected nodes f=
or<br>
&gt; &gt; mainnet and testnet on the same server.<br>
&gt; &gt; Is this a good plan? Will this all help?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sound great! Let me know if you&#39;ve got something to test.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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