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At
http://media.scmagazine.com/documents/127/virtual_currency_rules_31557.pdf,
section 200.3(c)(2) lists "consumers that utilize Virtual Currency solely
for the purchase or sale of goods or services or for investment purposes"
as "Persons [who] are exempt from the licensing requirements".

Who else is left?




On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Theo Chino via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I might have a "crazy" simple solution.
> From the literature I read, it seems that Satochi has the keys that would
> authenticate him using Bitcoin.
>
> HBO John Oliver's program might have given me (and hopefully others) the
> brilliant idea to protect the Bitcoin network from the overzealous reach of
> the politicians. One need to start a Church, and to start the Church one
> need funds (121UZ1hDs9MgCHonA8vjXr89D8FuDf5c7t) to start.
>
> John Oliver's program on HBO about Churches (and the hypocrisy of some)
> was epic and such entity could argue that Bitcoin is a belief system (which
> it is) and would force the issue at a Federal level under the Church and
> State separation. - John's video :
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1xJAVZxXg
>
> At this time, I am waiting for the License issue to walk its course in New
> York State.
>
> Currently:
>
>    - I am waiting for my License to be denied (to protest) and appeal it.
>    - Waiting to hear from the License process to appeal the law in
>    general.
>    - Meeting Elected officials (in New York City, NY State, and France)
>    and educating them on Bitcoin.
>
> Every time we (the community) talk about Bitcoin, it can sound like
> religion; therefore why not go all the way and do what John Oliver did ?
> Seed money would help. :)
>
> Regarding the Fork, from my perspective of a small company, I see that
> like it was with IRC with the ICMP node split. The Church thing is not here
> to take side but to "try" to protect the Bitcoin.
>
> We will need to ordain ministers selected after completing prescribed
> courses of study setup by the developers.
>
> In short I am asking Satochi to help this church with original coins. If
> it is a troll, I am talking to the Dev Community at large to recruit them
> to ordain the ministers.
>
> Regards,
> *Theo Chino*
>
>
> *https://www.facebook.com/groups/557495624389384
> <https://www.facebook.com/groups/557495624389384> (NY
> State)http://frenchmorning.com/en/2014/08/18/french-robin-hood-bitcoin-new-york
> <http://frenchmorning.com/en/2014/08/18/french-robin-hood-bitcoin-new-york>*
>
> *(My position on the fork is still the same as when I ran for a seat of
> the Foundation; still don't have enough information and thing will move
> faster than I can devote the time to read about it.)*
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> For the record I would like to share my technical analysis of the Satoshi
>> email which I wrote in a pastebin (http://pastebin.com/Ct5M8fa2) a few
>> days ago.
>>
>> 1. The email is the one used by Satoshi to announce Bitcoin in the first
>> place.
>> http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2008-October/014810.html
>>
>> 2. The email was not spoofed, it actually originated from vistomail's
>> server. The email headers show the email originated from 190.97.163.93
>> and the SPF records show this as an authorised sender for the email.
>> This does not prove the account wasn't hacked of course, or that the
>> account might have expired and be re-registered by someone else (vistomail
>> is a paid for email provider).
>>
>> 3. While the email is not signed, and there are a number of PGP keys
>> listed on key servers for him (to vary addresses), he didnt sign any emails
>> with any PGP keys.
>>
>> It is therefore not possible to outright dismiss the email's authenticity
>> as the email originates from an authentic source. The only questions is
>> whether the webmail service was hacked or commandeered somehow.
>>
>>
>>
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>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
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>
>
>
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>


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quote">On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Theo Chino via bitcoin-dev <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" targ=
et=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
r><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:=
1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello,<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"><s=
pan><div><div><br></div>I might have a &quot;crazy&quot; simple solution. <=
br>From the literature I read, it seems that Satochi has the keys that woul=
d authenticate him using Bitcoin.<br><br></div></span><div>HBO John Oliver&=
#39;s program might have given me (and hopefully others) the brilliant idea=
 to protect the Bitcoin network from the overzealous reach of the politicia=
ns. One need to start a Church, and to start the Church one need funds (121=
UZ1hDs9MgCHonA8vjXr89D8FuDf5c7t) to start.<br></div><div><br></div>John Oli=
ver&#39;s program on HBO about Churches (and the hypocrisy of some) was epi=
c and such entity could argue that Bitcoin is a belief system (which it is)=
 and would force the issue at a Federal level under the Church and State se=
paration. - John&#39;s video : <a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
=3D7y1xJAVZxXg" target=3D"_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7y1xJAV=
ZxXg</a><p> </p><div><span><p> At this time, I am waiting for the License i=
ssue to walk its course in New York State.</p><p>Currently:</p><ul><li> <di=
v>I am waiting for my License to be denied (to protest) and appeal it.</div=
> </li><li> <div>Waiting to hear from the License process to appeal the law=
 in general.</div></li><li>Meeting Elected officials (in New York City, NY =
State, and France) and educating them on Bitcoin.</li></ul><p> </p><p>Every=
 time we (the community) talk about Bitcoin, it can sound like religion; th=
erefore why not go all the way and do what John Oliver did ? Seed money wou=
ld help. :)</p><p>Regarding the Fork, from my perspective of a small compan=
y, I see that like it was with IRC with the ICMP node split. The Church thi=
ng is not here to take side but to &quot;try&quot; to protect the Bitcoin.<=
/p></span><p>We will need to ordain ministers selected after completing pre=
scribed courses of study setup by the developers.</p><span><p>In short I am=
 asking Satochi to help this church with original coins. If it is a troll, =
I am talking to the Dev Community at large to recruit them to ordain the mi=
nisters.<br></p><p>Regards,<br></p><b>Theo Chino</b><br><i><a href=3D"https=
://www.facebook.com/groups/557495624389384" target=3D"_blank">https://www.f=
acebook.com/groups/557495624389384</a> (NY State)<br><a href=3D"http://fren=
chmorning.com/en/2014/08/18/french-robin-hood-bitcoin-new-york" target=3D"_=
blank">http://frenchmorning.com/en/2014/08/18/french-robin-hood-bitcoin-new=
-york</a><br></i></span></div><span><div><i>(My position on the fork is sti=
ll the same as when I ran for a seat of the Foundation; still don&#39;t hav=
e enough information and thing will move faster than I can devote the time =
to read about it.)<br></i></div><div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><div>On Mon, Aug =
17, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin=
-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div></div><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">For the record I would like to share =
my technical analysis of the Satoshi email which I wrote in a pastebin (<a =
href=3D"http://pastebin.com/Ct5M8fa2" target=3D"_blank">http://pastebin.com=
/Ct5M8fa2</a>) a few days ago.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra">1. The email is the one used by Satoshi to announc=
e Bitcoin in the first place.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><a href=
=3D"http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2008-October/014810.html=
" target=3D"_blank">http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2008-Oct=
ober/014810.html</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra">2. The email was not spoofed, it actually originated from =
vistomail&#39;s server. The email headers show the email originated from=C2=
=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">190.97.163.93 and =
the SPF records show this as an authorised sender for the email</span>. Thi=
s does not prove the account wasn&#39;t hacked of course, or that the accou=
nt might have expired and be re-registered by someone else (vistomail is a =
paid for email provider).</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_extra">3. While the email is not signed, and there are a numbe=
r of PGP keys listed on key servers for him (to vary addresses), he didnt s=
ign any emails with any PGP keys.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra">It is therefore not possible to outright dismis=
s the email&#39;s authenticity as the email originates from an authentic so=
urce. The only questions is whether the webmail service was hacked or comma=
ndeered somehow.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_extra"><br></div></div>
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itmocracy.com" target=3D"_blank">Litmocracy</a> and <a href=3D"http://www.m=
emeracing.net" target=3D"_blank">Meme Racing</a> (in alpha). <br>I&#39;m th=
e webmaster for <a href=3D"http://www.voluntaryist.com" target=3D"_blank">T=
he Voluntaryist</a> which now accepts Bitcoin.<br>I also code for <a href=
=3D"http://dollarvigilante.com/" target=3D"_blank">The Dollar Vigilante</a>=
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