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| author | Billy Tetrud <billy.tetrud@gmail.com> | 2022-01-25 05:53:36 -0600 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2022-01-25 11:53:49 +0000 |
| commit | 41711698d84fefc451962f436c21e1f0409cbd88 (patch) | |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] PathCoin
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boundary="000000000000d1fc3705d666bc93" +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 12:07:05 +0000 +Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] PathCoin +X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 +Precedence: list +List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> +List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> +X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 11:53:50 -0000 + +--000000000000d1fc3705d666bc93 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" + +There was a protocol someone mentioned a while back called Sabu that had +the same goals. As i recall, it had some pretty promising constructs, but +would have a critical vulnerability that could be exploited by miners. This +is the write up: + +https://raymo-49157.medium.com/time-to-boost-bitcoin-circulation-million-transactions-per-second-and-privacy-1eef8568d180 + +Perhaps some of the techniques there could be combined with your ideas to +get closer to a solution. + +On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 08:51 AdamISZ via bitcoin-dev < +bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: + +> Hello list, +> +> I took the time to write up this rather out-there idea: +> +> Imagine you wanted to send a coin just like email, i.e. just transfer data +> to the counterparty. +> +> Clearly this is in general entirely impossible; but with what restrictions +> and assumptions could you create a toy version of it? +> +> See this gist for a detailed build up of the idea: +> +> https://gist.github.com/AdamISZ/b462838cbc8cc06aae0c15610502e4da +> +> Basically: using signature adaptors and CTV or a similar covenant, you +> could create a fully trustless transfer of control of a utxo from one party +> to another with no interaction with the rest of the group, at the time of +> transfer (modulo of course lots and lots of one-time setup). +> +> The limitations are extreme and as you'd imagine. In the gist I feel like +> I got round one of them, but not the others. +> +> (I very briefly mention comparison to e.g. statechains or payment pools; +> they are making other tradeoffs against the 'digital cash' type of goal. +> There is no claim that this 'pathcoin' idea is even viable yet, let alone +> better than those ideas). +> +> Publishing this because I feel like it's the kind of thing imaginative +> minds like the ones here, may be able to develop further. Possibly! +> +> +> waxwing / AdamISZ +> _______________________________________________ +> bitcoin-dev mailing list +> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev +> + +--000000000000d1fc3705d666bc93 +Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +<div dir=3D"auto">There was a protocol someone mentioned a while back calle= +d Sabu that had the same goals. As i recall, it had some pretty promising c= +onstructs, but would have a critical vulnerability that could be exploited = +by miners. This is the write up:<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"aut= +o"><a href=3D"https://raymo-49157.medium.com/time-to-boost-bitcoin-circulat= +ion-million-transactions-per-second-and-privacy-1eef8568d180">https://raymo= +-49157.medium.com/time-to-boost-bitcoin-circulation-million-transactions-pe= +r-second-and-privacy-1eef8568d180</a><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>= +<div dir=3D"auto">Perhaps some of the techniques there could be combined wi= +th your ideas to get closer to a solution.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gma= +il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 08:51= + AdamISZ via bitcoin-dev <<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfound= +ation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><b= +lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px = +#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello list,<br> +<br> +I took the time to write up this rather out-there idea:<br> +<br> +Imagine you wanted to send a coin just like email, i.e. just transfer data = +to the counterparty.<br> +<br> +Clearly this is in general entirely impossible; but with what restrictions = +and assumptions could you create a toy version of it?<br> +<br> +See this gist for a detailed build up of the idea:<br> +<br> +<a href=3D"https://gist.github.com/AdamISZ/b462838cbc8cc06aae0c15610502e4da= +" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://gist.github.com/A= +damISZ/b462838cbc8cc06aae0c15610502e4da</a><br> +<br> +Basically: using signature adaptors and CTV or a similar covenant, you coul= +d create a fully trustless transfer of control of a utxo from one party to = +another with no interaction with the rest of the group, at the time of tran= +sfer (modulo of course lots and lots of one-time setup).<br> +<br> +The limitations are extreme and as you'd imagine. In the gist I feel li= +ke I got round one of them, but not the others.<br> +<br> +(I very briefly mention comparison to e.g. statechains or payment pools; th= +ey are making other tradeoffs against the 'digital cash' type of go= +al. There is no claim that this 'pathcoin' idea is even viable yet,= + let alone better than those ideas).<br> +<br> +Publishing this because I feel like it's the kind of thing imaginative = +minds like the ones here, may be able to develop further. Possibly!<br> +<br> +<br> +waxwing / AdamISZ<br> +_______________________________________________<br> +bitcoin-dev mailing list<br> +<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank" = +rel=3D"noreferrer">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br> +<a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev" = +rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundati= +on.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br> +</blockquote></div> + +--000000000000d1fc3705d666bc93-- + |