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| author | Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> | 2014-03-06 18:03:27 +0100 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2014-03-06 17:03:34 +0000 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Instant / contactless payments
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Could you give us the elevator pitch? :) + +On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Alex Kotenko <alexykot@gmail.com> wrote: + +> I mean - if with Bitcoin v0.9 transaction fees will become really +> floating, and it should eventually reach equilibrium that will reflect some +> real world value. Probably a tiny value, but probably also rather stable +> value. So confirmationless payment cap may be defined as +> <current_average_transaction_fee>x10000. +> + +I guess fees will wander up and down depending on system load rather than +real world value - but maybe you're right. That said, all wallets sync +exchange rates automatically already. + +In some Star Trek future, perhaps we would want Bitcoin to be independent +of other value units. But I'm not convinced such a world will ever exist. +Arguably, a stable currency would slowly become worth more over time in +line with economic growth. But then for stable prices you would need +something like a fake currency that was "backed by" (really: represented +by) a basket of goods. Otherwise over time your rent would go up in real +terms, for good real reason. + +--047d7bd6aea2b65b3404f3f31d7e +Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Alex!<div><br></div><div>About the video - I'm = +curious how your device is better than just a regular tablet. Could you giv= +e us the elevator pitch? :)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class= +=3D"gmail_quote"> +On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Alex Kotenko <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href= +=3D"mailto:alexykot@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">alexykot@gmail.com</a>>= +</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .= +8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +<div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:'courier new',monospace;= +color:rgb(0,51,0)">I mean - if with Bitcoin v0.9 transaction fees will beco= +me really floating, and it should eventually reach equilibrium that will re= +flect some real world value. Probably a tiny value, but probably=C2=A0also= +=C2=A0rather stable value. So confirmationless payment cap may be defined a= +s <current_average_transaction_fee>x10000.</div> +</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I guess fees will wander up and down= + depending on system load rather than real world value - but maybe you'= +re right. That said, all wallets sync exchange rates automatically already.= +</div> +<div><br></div><div>In some Star Trek future, perhaps we would want Bitcoin= + to be independent of other value units. But I'm not convinced such a w= +orld will ever exist. Arguably, a stable currency would slowly become worth= + more over time in line with economic growth. But then for stable prices yo= +u would need something like a fake currency that was "backed by" = +(really: represented by) a basket of goods. Otherwise over time your rent w= +ould go up in real terms, for good real reason.</div> +</div></div></div> + +--047d7bd6aea2b65b3404f3f31d7e-- + + |