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author | Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay.com> | 2014-03-13 12:29:03 -0400 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2014-03-13 16:29:31 +0000 |
commit | f3e587bc19284cbc2c58b43a17e693a40d5c6c8f (patch) | |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] moving the default display to mbtc
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We're just about to do +> another Armory release and could support this very easily. + +mBTC now just means the issue -will- be revisited in the future. Just +a question of when, not if. + +People and software in various nations handle big numbers for small +values (e.g. Yen) just fine. +People and software do -not- handle extra decimal places well, field +experience shows. + +<vendor hat: on> To roll out QuickBooks support --without converting +any numbers, a key financial attribute-- mBTC is simply insufficient +today, not in the future. + +I also argue that it is a security risk, as follows: To support +accounting packages limited to 2 decimal places, decimal point +conversion must be performed. This produces a situation where your +accounting system shows numbers that do not visually match the numbers +in the bitcoin software. That, in turn, making auditing more +difficult, particularly for outsiders. + +Shipping with mBTC defaults was decidedly unwise, considering that -- +like BTC -- it fails to solve existing, known problems that uBTC can +solve, and considering the inevitable mBTC->uBTC switch. + +-- +Jeff Garzik +Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist +BitPay, Inc. https://bitpay.com/ + + |