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author | Matt Corallo <lf-lists@mattcorallo.com> | 2017-05-10 16:39:00 +0000 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Some real-world results about the current Segwit Discount
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If you think doing so is going to so= +mehow help get support in a divided community, I don't understand how - mor= +e likely you're only going to make things significantly worse=2E + +On May 10, 2017 11:25:27 AM EDT, Sergio Demian Lerner <sergio=2Ed=2Elerner= +@gmail=2Ecom> wrote: +>Jaja=2E But no shit=2E Not perfect maybe, but Bitcoin was never perfect= +=2E It +>has +>always been good enough=2E And at the beginning it was quite simple=2E +>Simple +>enough it allowed gradual improvements that anyone with some technical +>background could understand=2E Now we need a full website to explain an +>improvement=2E +>But this is becoming more and more out of topic=2E +> +> +>On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Matt Corallo +><lf-lists@mattcorallo=2Ecom> +>wrote: +> +>> I'm highly unconvinced of this point=2E Sure, you can change fewer +>lines +>> of code, but if the result is, lets be honest, shit, how do you +>believe +>> its going to have a higher chance of getting acceptance from the +>broader +>> community? I think you're over-optimizing in the wrong direction=2E +>> +>> Matt +>> +>> On 05/09/17 20:58, Sergio Demian Lerner wrote: +>> > I agree with you Matt=2E +>> > I'm artificially limiting myself to changing the parameters of +>Segwit as +>> > it is=2E=2E +>> > +>> > This is motivated by the idea that a consensual HF in the current +>state +>> > would have greater chance of acceptance if it changes the minimum +>number +>> > of lines of code=2E +>> > +>> > +>> > +>> > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Gregory Maxwell <greg@xiph=2Eorg +>> > <mailto:greg@xiph=2Eorg>> wrote: +>> > +>> > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Matt Corallo +>> > <lf-lists@mattcorallo=2Ecom <mailto:lf-lists@mattcorallo=2Ecom>> +>wrote: +>> > > at beast=2E +>> > +>> > Rawr=2E +>> > +>> > +>> + |