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author | Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> | 2016-08-08 14:53:54 -0700 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2016-08-08 21:54:13 +0000 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Hiding entire content of on-chain transactions
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I feel like this ability is bitcoin's greatest asset, and = +by +> removing it you're creating an altcoin different enough to not be connect= +ed +> to/supported by the main bitcoin project. + +The fact that miners verify transactions is just an optimisation: + + https://petertodd.org/2013/disentangling-crypto-coin-mining + +Preventing double-spending however is a fundemental requirement of Bitcoin,= + and +this proposal does prevent double-spending perfectly well (although there m= +ay +be better ways to do it). + +The OP's proposal sounds quite similar to my earlier one along similar line= +s: + + https://petertodd.org/2016/closed-seal-sets-and-truth-lists-for-privacy + +--=20 +https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org + +--XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" +Content-Description: Digital signature + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- + +iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXqP9wAAoJEGOZARBE6K+y2TIH+QH5uRYXazHr2p2wtT2dcwQD +RRrCZbyr4pwuzCOJRKjrdKF1UJAz/Ui05FZbmE7ZgGIiSuC2pAdUmRQ71JYlq+Z1 +Z7UxhbG8pVJHaOXykeRpEkFUFOA5QD/MeE4TAKjVhicQo/i6/bZrl9KmDTqwvuTY +2077FJYaZe8dWtVB6N6fxdsNstgodvxs6aAFByv72vrlIr4r+2zhTUa/dBefR/zw +OYABAtNqAqNV6Ih86pHUL90Zipo2mS4UYtkk/0NkN2mlRCjSqOFV491MBawcx5ea +6h1RRhE5/YvgzsFmxKM2RJs04C1PLEWLkQAw9dGBK8fZbCDKW03/9pCjQrlSiGg= +=wjii +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l-- + |