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authorPeter Vessenes <peter@coinlab.com>2012-07-06 10:02:47 -0700
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP 34: Block v2, Height in Coinbase
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+Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP 34: Block v2, Height in Coinbase
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+On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@exmulti.com> wrote:
+
+> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Peter Vessenes <peter@coinlab.com> wrote:
+> > The proposal is simple, and it's a small change for miners, I imagine.
+> >
+> > My question is: why?
+> >
+> > I worry about stuffing too many requirements on the coinbase. I suppose
+> > the coinbase is easily extendible if we run out of bytes, but I think I'd
+> > like to see some more discussion / good / bad type cases for making this
+> > change. What do we get over just the prev_hash by doing this?
+>
+> With the existing setup (sans height in coinbase), you might not have
+> unique transactions, with all that entails.
+>
+> Yes, I've experienced that myself, actually.
+
+
+> > Anyway, some background would be great; if I missed it, I'm happy to go
+> > read up, but I didn't see any links on the wiki.
+>
+> Gavin wrote some notes on upgrades and BIP16 lessons-learned at
+> https://gist.github.com/2355445
+>
+> This is a super coherent and excellent writeup. I may come back with more
+thoughts, I want to let it percolate. Thanks!
+
+> --
+> Jeff Garzik
+> exMULTI, Inc.
+> jgarzik@exmulti.com
+>
+
+
+
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+<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Jeff Gar=
+zik <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jgarzik@exmulti.com" target=3D"=
+_blank">jgarzik@exmulti.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g=
+mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
+eft:1ex">
+
+<div class=3D"im">On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Peter Vessenes &lt;<a hr=
+ef=3D"mailto:peter@coinlab.com">peter@coinlab.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; The proposal is simple, and it&#39;s a small change for miners, I imag=
+ine.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; My question is: why?<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I worry about stuffing too many requirements on the coinbase. I suppos=
+e<br>
+&gt; the coinbase is easily extendible if we run out of bytes, but I think =
+I&#39;d<br>
+&gt; like to see some more discussion / good / bad type cases for making th=
+is<br>
+&gt; change. What do we get over just the prev_hash by doing this?<br>
+<br>
+</div>With the existing setup (sans height in coinbase), you might not have=
+<br>
+unique transactions, with all that entails.<br>
+<div class=3D"im"><br></div></blockquote><div>Yes, I&#39;ve experienced tha=
+t myself, actually.</div><div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
+yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div =
+class=3D"im">
+
+
+&gt; Anyway, some background would be great; if I missed it, I&#39;m happy =
+to go<br>
+&gt; read up, but I didn&#39;t see any links on the wiki.<br>
+<br>
+</div>Gavin wrote some notes on upgrades and BIP16 lessons-learned at<br>
+<a href=3D"https://gist.github.com/2355445" target=3D"_blank">https://gist.=
+github.com/2355445</a><br>
+<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br></div></div></blockquote><div>T=
+his is a super coherent and excellent writeup. I may come back with more th=
+oughts, I want to let it percolate. Thanks!=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
+ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
+ft:1ex">
+
+<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">
+--<br>
+Jeff Garzik<br>
+exMULTI, Inc.<br>
+<a href=3D"mailto:jgarzik@exmulti.com">jgarzik@exmulti.com</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>=
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