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| author | Jonas Schnelli <dev@jonasschnelli.ch> | 2016-08-25 10:08:21 +0200 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2016-08-25 08:08:32 +0000 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Status updates (including to Active/Final Status) - BIP 39, BIP 43, BIP 44, BIP 67, BIP 111, BIP 125, BIP 130
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+>> +>> +>=20 +> That case is not unrealistic; a merchant might generate addresses that +> are beyond their gap limit, and orders get filled at a later date. +>=20 +> In that case you will not get the same result when restoring your walle= +t +> in a block-scanning wallet and in Electrum. +>=20 +> The lack of consideration for these cases is another issue with BIP44. + +The development paradigm of "maybe detect funds" is not something we +should *not* encourage for Bitcoin IMO. + +Users might sweep their existing bip32/bip44 seed (which could miss +funds according to the problem above) to a new wallet and discard the +previous seed. + +But I agree with Luke-Jr. +This Thread is not about specification, it's about what's used and what +should be marked as standard. + +New BIPs could cover "overhauled" proposals for BIP39 and BIP44. +Otherwise =96 very likely =96 nothing will happen. + +</jonas> + + +--BfjnrahLVT1b1ghN8ixIn0vAB591Flxwn-- + +--ogllOdkK2qUVOfkLckKci5dtWgUcpOCdj +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" +Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature +Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v2 + +iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXvqd1AAoJECnUvLZBb1Psx2wQAK2P8Jn4/9svLdYdWHdxRGlE ++8c54Pw9VcG3gaT1cWQNKZdhWUeSvaaPwKKAR78Qzg6s8YIWr+RS+72bSN0Z9zPE +0ZFkINkWlI5Y42T4sYqK/LkSl06H1G6DtmhfbZnV/FyUtbI4T+d0OngTp57Fkmfw +9zyww+h3gfeXNe7OBhZJwda9TuAcfdlMHztKzoMzqrwI/iFkXjIippKOxV6t+vq7 +bpOndNycT9qRQcMz4T6sWkCXNlYVlRYadPlqDJs+tvxY/HO3wvww+lTeDeAhCYEv +4kUKgk1Wc2fQM/4AROdKw0Qp1f/s7/TmFvYojCXxpednKxv12S/BlIUOzkXPdWBW +eHbAR02bBcvrhRhqCUp5zejeUf5jJnoIYJakmLlWs46h4CXIRT+Nn8XNUpo7g96M +irZjsuJi2Ut/EDDyiqlJH8Zh0x0bMydekU4YU9KAH9ofFl9rgZ055+floUvVG0Fy +byfExoetNMsjNhaYaBQrDZh6HqPLq8W+xAn/5cc6RcwptZXsVIA/tZiBHop00S7k +FnzdtKczwzeWy/um92gGvMRwZSuB00s/Wg0iJvpjuFmKQxZ6QDfLn+oQAQV5Zl4f +PtPKklkJP+bCrVgoXcaUMoR3fmGUHhCq61v9KiJ8VPNaY7sHL3gNjRPQXUJVrtH1 +lNHkB5bNX4ZoMN/Bx82T +=z1R9 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--ogllOdkK2qUVOfkLckKci5dtWgUcpOCdj-- + |