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author | Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> | 2013-07-30 16:11:41 -0400 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2013-07-30 20:11:55 +0000 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Tor and Bitcoin
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At this point = +I'm merely curious, since we don't have the option to run bitcoinj over Tor= + right now anyway. + +Yes, although remember that in general SPV nodes are significantly less +safe because they depend soley on confirmations for security; it's often +not appreciated that an attacker can target multiple SPV-using entities +at once by creating a invalid block header with any number of completely +fake payments linked to it; if you can attack n targets at once, the +cost to perform the attack is n times less per target.=20 + +Unrelated to Tor, but an interesting possibility to improve SPV security +is to ask for the history of a given txout - that is the previous +transactions that funded it. You could even do this with a +zero-knowledge proof, sampling some subset of the prior transactions to +detect fraud. Unfortunately none of the infrastructure is setup to do +this, and txid's aren't constructed in ways that make these kinds of +proofs cheap. (you really want a merkle tree over the txin and txout +sets) + +Work thinking about for the future in any case - the above can be +implemented as a soft-fork. + +--=20 +'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org +0000000000000077bb3b12c68ada1e2965411a973b07fc721834154df07aa5c9 + +--x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" +Content-Description: Digital signature + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEARECAAYFAlH4Hf0ACgkQpEFN739thox0vQCfaKziMn0tOR9wKSf5S2IjdiUm +XEAAoIZFPha60Q1vP/toCzVcloKxZ9ZD +=qR2l +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn-- + + |