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author | Dan Libby <dan@osc.co.cr> | 2017-07-13 09:13:04 -0700 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] how to disable segwit in my build?
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I think your options are: +> +> - if you're a miner or run a mining pool, you can *signal* (or not +> signal) support for segwit activation; you do this by controlling +> the block version + +I wish to NOT signal for segwit if mining. + +> - if you're running a node, you can choose to *enforce* (or not +> enforce) the additional consensus rules associated with segwit + +I wish to NOT enforce segwit consensus rules. + +> +> I think it's the latter you're talking about. "Activation" is different: +> it's the collective action of the bitcoin ecosystem to start enforcing +> the segwit consensus rules after a sufficient majority of miners are +> signalling support. That's not something you as an individual can control. + +good point, thanks for clarifying. + +> If you want to disable enforcement of segwit rules, even if a majority of +> mining power signal activation, you can change the code and recompile to +> do so, for example by changing the nTimeout setting for DEPLOYMENT_SEGWIT +> from 1510704000 (Nov 15 2017) to 1493596800 (May 1 2017, already expired). +> This is probably a bad idea, in that it will cause you to risk accepting +> blocks that nobody else in the network will accept, opening you up +> to higher risk of double spends, and may cause you to be unable to +> peer with segwit enabled nodes after segwit is activated if your node +> is rejecting blocks with witness data because you think segwit is not +> enabled while they think it is enabled. To avoid that you would also need +> to stop setting the NODE_WITNESS p2p bit, which you might be able to do +> by setting the nTimeout above to 0 instead of just a date in the past? I +> believe a timeout of 0 gets treated as automatically FAILED. There might +> be other complexities too though. + +I've set the nTimeout to 0 already. I will look into the NODE_WITNESS +p2p bit. + +I think that logically, if coded correctly, my node would have no more +risks than any other legacy (pre-segwit) node on the network... + +> +>> I'm not looking for reasons NOT to do it, only HOW to do it without +>> unwanted side-effects. +> +> The unwanted side-effects are precisely the reasons not to do it. If you +> don't understand what they are, you won't be able to avoid them. :) + +fair enough. But these are the same risks as running any pre-segwit +node, correct? For example bitcoin-core 0.13.0, or any version of +btcd to date... + + +-- +Dan Libby + +Open Source Consulting S.A. +Santa Ana, Costa Rica +http://osc.co.cr +phone: 011 506 2204 7018 +Fax: 011 506 2223 7359 + |