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| author | Jorge Timón <jtimonmv@gmail.com> | 2013-03-11 17:46:38 +0100 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2013-03-11 16:46:46 +0000 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Blocking uneconomical UTXO creation
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By the way, doesn't have to destroy them, can +> just give them to miners. +> +> In any case, what's wrong with my reasoning? +> Smart property/colored coins are not spam transactions because they pay +> fees. +> +> The problem for the network are not transactions that move less coins +> than they pay fees, but old UNSPENT OUTPUTS. So why don't you focus on +> that instead of a formula to check what transactions make "economic +> sense"? +> +> I even prefer the sudden "destruction" (or re-generation by miners) of +> the account after the X period (killerstorm's proposal) instead of +> just rejecting great potential use cases for the chain. +> +> I mean, I still prefer a small fixed demurrage fee after those X +> blocks without moving them, but since this community is demurrage +> allergic and that possibility cannot even be considered (doesn't +> matter what reflects better the costs for miners/the network I guess), +> I'll go with the second best option IMO. +> +> This would be just a fee for a resource that users are enjoying and +> has real costs for the network. Why would constant demurrage fees +> after a free storage period would be perceived so different from +> transaction fees? +> +> I haven't heard anyone complaining about "the bitcoin developers are +> destroying part of YOUR coins every time you move them!!" +> +> +> On 3/11/13, Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen@gmail.com> wrote: +>>> Just activate a non-proportional demurrage +>> +>> demurrage of any kind will never, ever happen, just give up on that idea= +. +>> +>> The negative publicity of "the bitcoin developers are destroying YOUR +>> coins!" would be devastating. +>> +>> -- +>> -- +>> Gavin Andresen +>> +> +> +> -- +> Jorge Tim=F3n +> +> http://freico.in/ +> http://archive.ripple-project.org/ +> + + +--=20 +Jorge Tim=F3n + +http://freico.in/ +http://archive.ripple-project.org/ + + |