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| author | Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com> | 2015-06-13 22:20:37 -0700 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2015-06-14 05:20:57 +0000 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] User vote in blocksize through fees
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diff --git a/21/b24bb981a6317972f53d8ef56665324f6f8fb8 b/21/b24bb981a6317972f53d8ef56665324f6f8fb8 new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f60352a26 --- /dev/null +++ b/21/b24bb981a6317972f53d8ef56665324f6f8fb8 @@ -0,0 +1,196 @@ +Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] + helo=mx.sourceforge.net) + by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) + (envelope-from <elombrozo@gmail.com>) id 1Z40Lp-0003JC-UD + for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; + Sun, 14 Jun 2015 05:20:57 +0000 +Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com + designates 209.85.192.179 as permitted sender) + client-ip=209.85.192.179; envelope-from=elombrozo@gmail.com; + helo=mail-pd0-f179.google.com; +Received: from mail-pd0-f179.google.com ([209.85.192.179]) + by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) + (Exim 4.76) id 1Z40Lo-0007g1-UT + for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; + Sun, 14 Jun 2015 05:20:57 +0000 +Received: by pdjm12 with SMTP id m12so49551033pdj.3 + for <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>; + Sat, 13 Jun 2015 22:20:51 -0700 (PDT) +X-Received: by 10.66.145.74 with SMTP id ss10mr37171326pab.28.1434259251310; + Sat, 13 Jun 2015 22:20:51 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from [192.168.1.102] (cpe-76-167-237-202.san.res.rr.com. + [76.167.237.202]) + by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id da2sm8191313pbb.57.2015.06.13.22.20.48 + (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); + Sat, 13 Jun 2015 22:20:49 -0700 (PDT) +Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) +Content-Type: multipart/signed; + boundary="Apple-Mail=_44053D0B-5801-4A36-A5BC-39E060BF038E"; + protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 +X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5b6 +From: Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com> +In-Reply-To: <CAJHLa0Oh0wm_1SynFdCu+WkVD-gTGk0ZUNgQV0GVj0-3zL=zzw@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 22:20:37 -0700 +Message-Id: <04527D50-0118-4E74-8226-3E29B29CC7D8@gmail.com> +References: <20150612181153.GB19199@muck> + <CAJN5wHVj=KfQ3_KYOKee9uq4LNPwQ7x5nGuKDHEMUqGF4LSDLg@mail.gmail.com> + <CAFzgq-y5xBSXexVi0mJw_w89R2_AHJCgmj=gLN4CK_-YaO4-eg@mail.gmail.com> + <3BB36FC7-9212-42A1-A756-A66929C15D4F@gmail.com> + <CAJHLa0Oh0wm_1SynFdCu+WkVD-gTGk0ZUNgQV0GVj0-3zL=zzw@mail.gmail.com> +To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay.com> +X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) +X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) +X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. + See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. + -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for + sender-domain + 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider + (elombrozo[at]gmail.com) + -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record + 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message + -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from + author's domain + 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, + not necessarily valid + -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature + -0.3 AWL AWL: Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address +X-Headers-End: 1Z40Lo-0007g1-UT +Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> +Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] User vote in blocksize through fees +X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 +Precedence: list +List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> +List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, + <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> +List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> +List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, + <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> +X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 05:20:58 -0000 + + +--Apple-Mail=_44053D0B-5801-4A36-A5BC-39E060BF038E +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="Apple-Mail=_3B4B0392-6097-4609-8DB8-732F1E4180D8" + + +--Apple-Mail=_3B4B0392-6097-4609-8DB8-732F1E4180D8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +Content-Type: text/plain; + charset=utf-8 + +I definitely think we need some voting system for metaconsensus=E2=80=A6bu= +t if we=E2=80=99re going to seriously consider this we should look at = +the problem much more generally. Using false choices doesn=E2=80=99t = +really help, though ;) + +- Eric Lombrozo + + +> On Jun 13, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay.com> wrote: +>=20 +> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com = +<mailto:elombrozo@gmail.com>> wrote: +> 2) BIP100 has direct economic consequences=E2=80=A6and particularly = +for miners. It lends itself to much greater corruptibility. +>=20 +>=20 +> What is the alternative? Have a Chief Scientist or Technical Advisory = +Board choose what is a proper fee, what is a proper level of = +decentralization, a proper growth factor? + + +--Apple-Mail=_3B4B0392-6097-4609-8DB8-732F1E4180D8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +Content-Type: text/html; + charset=utf-8 + +<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html = +charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = +-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" = +class=3D"">I definitely think we need some voting system for = +metaconsensus=E2=80=A6but if we=E2=80=99re going to seriously consider = +this we should look at the problem much more generally. Using false = +choices doesn=E2=80=99t really help, though ;)<div class=3D""><br = +class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">- Eric Lombrozo<br class=3D""><div = +class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote = +type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jun 13, 2015, at 10:13 PM, = +Jeff Garzik <<a href=3D"mailto:jgarzik@bitpay.com" = +class=3D"">jgarzik@bitpay.com</a>> wrote:</div><br = +class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = +text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: = +0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline = +!important;" class=3D"">On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Eric = +Lombrozo<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span = +dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = +font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; = +letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = +start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = +class=3D""><<a href=3D"mailto:elombrozo@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" = +class=3D"">elombrozo@gmail.com</a>></span><span style=3D"font-family: = +Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; = +font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; = +orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: = +none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; = +-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline = +!important;" class=3D""><span = +class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:</span><br = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = +text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: = +0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><div = +class=3D"gmail_extra" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = +font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; = +letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = +start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = +widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div = +class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: = +0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, = +204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;">2) BIP100 has = +direct economic consequences=E2=80=A6and particularly for miners. It = +lends itself to much greater corruptibility.<br class=3D""><br = +class=3D""></blockquote><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = +class=3D"">What is the alternative? Have a Chief Scientist or = +Technical Advisory Board choose what is a proper fee, what is a proper = +level of decentralization, a proper growth = +factor?</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br = +class=3D""></div></div></div></body></html>= + +--Apple-Mail=_3B4B0392-6097-4609-8DB8-732F1E4180D8-- + +--Apple-Mail=_44053D0B-5801-4A36-A5BC-39E060BF038E +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: attachment; + filename=signature.asc +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; + name=signature.asc +Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org + +iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVfQ8lAAoJEJNAI64YFENUIioP/jpNC9Batx53qXThVd1UYSq9 +mN8MBEsiMJIKHiJPCzGeN9VlTIDWMoisUhgIbQYwbpEpKoYZRxcmIBQfhcag9Aby +uTxwuyWb2nifylBKyw1aNKSZjias4ovW2NB6eQ+UqPoui1HtAAI0HJ00gqH617Jp +q0liyfknAfHDbaoaZ4KmqxGfbhAkGAUfU0XmRcUU7gne6c0/53OqOk2sqkadFKzm +8Mkcwv3HlSuEB580u56JRhEGFXHIDTUYAWws/LkdS3XbOY118X1YxMHCVdQN/Bz5 +OT+sgEbUgXFBg3zO8IdQ+0WuLN4ZHOHca4I3Rmbc0g63YTQPRTCcA77tPSNUdDiE +FeqzRGmaWenNgNPYjk/2XytwcEXJxsGLSwIic0tPyGM3CnvgKBLkSWMS+V59Ymp2 +IXTk5n11VoJacIw2E6wYM6U/UnPiNNzzqr9e1IYESQERbVzYUDAs+DTYsOVb+BBF +qal7u4gH7QY4wRGZx1PkJzjcFNohG5ky/dsIEhFVNHwrj1FsHDgOS8gywkY/Txhu +RoAy9TjyoIbm6MtWt1zfbka22LpDnm3DjrQbWw6Dl7Y8Kbt5XgLkldQxNjmAGZtE +owqHqQDJpo8itqGMzbQoGwsIQaBi3mW/yQpn++sOxyMBO2taBhhs8ne5yhLUac0b +CFOGXDDVNWUFwx8iv3wC +=rCaf +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--Apple-Mail=_44053D0B-5801-4A36-A5BC-39E060BF038E-- + + |