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| author | James MacWhyte <macwhyte@gmail.com> | 2016-08-10 22:31:16 +0000 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2016-08-10 22:31:28 +0000 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Number Request: Addresses over Audio
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Wed, + 10 Aug 2016 15:31:27 -0700 (PDT) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +References: <CAL9WuQUUeR3cuUXHxUfBTNJ-+r0iJ-7Z8KRNub0G3NBujnkqcw@mail.gmail.com> + <CABqynxJ3uph-4A+Ynq70CLa2kCCspTRsFWpKo_eP1FmVxZqSwQ@mail.gmail.com> + <CALd2G5dERuX2n33MGZJ+mtM8WnvtzZcWDFFUfNFZEGJFkkHLDg@mail.gmail.com> + <CAL9WuQUt+CMG2bEX+yv3LrFV7qn-=OSdn02ZxxPQci-3_ykPNQ@mail.gmail.com> + <CAL9WuQXsbBJ0UwdS+o=UqJCcsebcPa9Ug5A=uNtc6Z+9CNEFPg@mail.gmail.com> + <CAAS2fgR-weACn_Ezg8-uZuSH0QT5dfLEFE5WO2VDi0nx8H1e9g@mail.gmail.com> + <CAE-z3OXeJHvjyF_phVh2u9S45_xss=C9ykL=BN=n=BxTx+AbrQ@mail.gmail.com> + <CAJowKg+yh+PgTE14=+pPUXFdB_AGrsgk3cNSFnTGDYecsxDP5g@mail.gmail.com> + <CAFh0iXOLN6B27Fkc=GXo-j3VwA0hkNggCiQOhR35R52yQGwSwg@mail.gmail.com> + <CAL9WuQXH8TAKRabPSrZzMzpFBwmujdv-uSXJLeTt9u3H9WAFGw@mail.gmail.com> + <CAJowKgK0N9VJZsm4fbZ5VvteUjoQkh9-xhg1yfcD3NRTuFV78Q@mail.gmail.com> + <CAPg+sBi6mPviRRKysbuuOFKoYoyTufpUO_rJxJdB-8=7KGurYw@mail.gmail.com> + <CAL9WuQVGu-7V3+Ty86zOMm1HdqCw5+999Vw7VCn6HXBwdoKBpA@mail.gmail.com> +In-Reply-To: <CAL9WuQVGu-7V3+Ty86zOMm1HdqCw5+999Vw7VCn6HXBwdoKBpA@mail.gmail.com> +From: James MacWhyte <macwhyte@gmail.com> +Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 22:31:16 +0000 +Message-ID: <CAH+Axy7ZCn4BLyk1GxhTNx945x-7sqW8Ehks32eLod3N0=HJYA@mail.gmail.com> +To: Daniel Hoffman <danielhoffman699@gmail.com>, + Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>, + Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille@gmail.com> +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114533eac460a50539bf3526 +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, + DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW + autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on + smtp1.linux-foundation.org +Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Number Request: Addresses over Audio +X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 +Precedence: list +List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> +List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> +X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 22:31:28 -0000 + +--001a114533eac460a50539bf3526 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 + +I agree, audio-based transference isn't really great for a podcast or radio +ad. It could be used to transmit payment details between phones that don't +have cameras, though. I think it would be better to define a standard for +transmitting information over audio, but not define what information is to +be conveyed so people could use the method for sending pub keys, payment +protocol requests, or anything else developers might want to make use of. + +I'm guessing some sort of data-over-audio standard already exists? In which +case the bip could just say "we use [standard] to convey any +bitcoin-related data". + +On Wed, Aug 10, 2016, 10:55 Daniel Hoffman via bitcoin-dev < +bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: + +> thats how i thought it worked originally, but im not well versed on that, +> so i took his word for it +> +> On Aug 10, 2016 12:38 PM, "Pieter Wuille via bitcoin-dev" < +> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: +> +>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Erik Aronesty via bitcoin-dev +>> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: +>> > By sending a public seed, there's no way for someone to use the +>> transmitted +>> > address and trace the total amount of payments to it. +>> +>> Worse. By revealing a public seed, anyone who has seen it (= anyone +>> who ever pays you through it) can identity all payments to _any_ +>> address derived from that seed. +>> +>> -- +>> Pieter +>> _______________________________________________ +>> bitcoin-dev mailing list +>> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev +>> +> _______________________________________________ +> bitcoin-dev mailing list +> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev +> + +--001a114533eac460a50539bf3526 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +<div dir=3D"ltr">I agree, audio-based transference isn't really great f= +or a podcast or radio ad. It could be used to transmit payment details betw= +een phones that don't have cameras, though. I think it would be better = +to define a standard for transmitting information over audio, but not defin= +e what information is to be conveyed so people could use the method for sen= +ding pub keys, payment protocol requests, or anything else developers might= + want to make use of.</div><span> +</span><p dir=3D"ltr">I'm guessing some sort of data-over-audio standar= +d already exists? In which case the bip could just say "we use [standa= +rd] to convey any bitcoin-related data".<br> +</p><span> +</span><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Aug 10, 2016= +, 10:55 Daniel Hoffman via bitcoin-dev <<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@li= +sts.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>> wrot= +e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo= +rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir=3D"ltr">thats how i thoug= +ht it worked originally, but im not well versed on that, so i took his word= + for it</p> +<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Aug 10, 2016 1= +2:38 PM, "Pieter Wuille via bitcoin-dev" <<a href=3D"mailto:bi= +tcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.li= +nuxfoundation.org</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class= +=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd= +ing-left:1ex">On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Erik Aronesty via bitcoin-de= +v<br> +<<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_bla= +nk">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>> wrote:<br> +> By sending a public seed,=C2=A0 there's no way for someone to use = +the transmitted<br> +> address and trace the total amount of payments to it.<br> +<br> +Worse. By revealing a public seed, anyone who has seen it (=3D anyone<br> +who ever pays you through it) can identity all payments to _any_<br> +address derived from that seed.<br> +<br> +--<br> +Pieter<br> +_______________________________________________<br> +bitcoin-dev mailing list<br> +<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">= +bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br> +<a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev" = +rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mail= +man/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br> +</blockquote></div></div> +_______________________________________________<br> +bitcoin-dev mailing list<br> +<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">= +bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br> +<a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev" = +rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mail= +man/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br> +</blockquote></div> + +--001a114533eac460a50539bf3526-- + |