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author | Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> | 2014-04-23 11:55:31 -0400 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2014-04-23 15:55:45 +0000 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Coinbase reallocation to discourage Finney attacks
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How can we work towards solving the double-spending problem? +>=20 +> We have this awesome technology that solves the double-spending +> problem. It's called a blockchain. Of course, it only works when +> transactions are actually in a block. +>=20 +> This issue is about double-spending preventing before they're +> confirmed. This is (and has always been) just a best-effort mechanism +> in the network. +>=20 +> > 2. Is it possible to "scan" for double-spending and correct it? +>=20 +> That is what is being proposed here, by introducing a mechanism where +> miners can vote to penalize other miners if they seem to allow (too +> many?) double spends. + +Worse, it's a mechanism where miners can vote to penalize other miners +for any reason at all. Nothing in the mechanism requires any proof that +a double-spend happened, nor can it. Even if you require the simple +"two signatures for same output" mechanism, that just proves the +existance of a second signature, and says nothing at all about whether +or not that signature was ever broadcast on any network. + +--=20 +'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org +0000000000000000278031f86c71265f6eaf1fe9ce6cc831dc4f956676a7a7f7 + +--vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" +Content-Description: Digital signature + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) + +iQGrBAEBCACVBQJTV+JvXhSAAAAAABUAQGJsb2NraGFzaEBiaXRjb2luLm9yZzAw +MDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAyNzgwMzFmODZjNzEyNjVmNmVhZjFmZTljZTZjYzgzMWRj +NGY5NTY2NzZhN2E3ZjcvFIAAAAAAFQARcGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3JncGV0 +ZUBwZXRlcnRvZC5vcmcACgkQJIFAPaXwkfvEkAgAvPK1RNoAD/x5W9QuIaH2vZSx +mWdY5Nq4vDGjH36aFOsKaXUOO2jXF7LXmRmLcc/edNY2+GsNrfEYOU8u+CtiFZ/K +h7A2NwZI85VxUHZ87YPBVRtlKDXQVpAngrhG8r3yk7e9E5RpoNWgDWI9lirK9EW5 +Pcmsfz8/uL1621KqudLqEHZK2+R6Fb9CY+9sem4FKb9mijYgHWGjM7ze5Q5YcEl5 +/MNmjd7RI1zTtJP7mxj6GdvvLRQWOuaYYOi+NBDcxQ1Mp2zlWjgwIS9o+I1p6g3Q +VgVGd3N7agNmwerH++k8mGQ9ltTE6CnWMeDXojXrBaEIU0Gpq0vIku1rOUqGPg== +=EtaT +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL-- + + |