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author | Bryan Bishop <kanzure@gmail.com> | 2023-05-08 07:03:10 -0500 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2023-05-08 12:03:26 +0000 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Core maintainers and communication on merge decisions
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Harding" <dave@dtrt.org>, + Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e0a68d05fb2d6c2d" +Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Core maintainers and communication on + merge decisions +X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 +Precedence: list +List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> +List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> +X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 May 2023 12:03:26 -0000 + +--000000000000e0a68d05fb2d6c2d +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 12:36=E2=80=AFPM David A. Harding via bitcoin-dev < +bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: + +> On 2023-05-06 21:03, Michael Folkson via bitcoin-dev wrote: +> > Essentially my concern is going forward current maintainers will +> > decide which proposed new maintainers to add and which to block. +> +> This is how a large percentage of organizations are run. The current +> members of a board or other governance group choose who will become a +> new board member. +> + +Yes but it's unrelated to what Bitcoin Core is-- a volunteer project of +independent contributors merging different pull requests or patches. The +github controls are merely because that is how github works. There is also +a secondary issue of people tending to confuse Bitcoin Core with the +bitcoin protocol in general: +https://blog.lopp.net/who-controls-bitcoin-core/ +https://medium.com/@bergealex4/the-tao-of-bitcoin-development-ff093c6155cd +https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/a-primer-on-bitcoin-governance-or-why-d= +evelopers-aren-t-in-charge-of-the-protocol-1473270427 + +- Bryan +https://twitter.com/kanzure + +--000000000000e0a68d05fb2d6c2d +Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 12:36=E2=80=AFPM David A. Hard= +ing via bitcoin-dev <<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation= +.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>> wrote= +:<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty= +le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi= +ng-left:1ex">On 2023-05-06 21:03, Michael Folkson via bitcoin-dev wrote:<br= +> +> Essentially my concern is going forward current maintainers will<br> +> decide which proposed new maintainers to add and which to block.<br> +<br> +This is how a large percentage of organizations are run.=C2=A0 The current = +<br> +members of a board or other governance group choose who will become a <br> +new board member.<br></blockquote><div><br>Yes but it's unrelated to wh= +at Bitcoin Core is-- a volunteer project of independent contributors mergin= +g different pull requests or patches. The github controls are merely becaus= +e that is how github works. There is also a secondary issue of people tendi= +ng to confuse Bitcoin Core with the bitcoin protocol in general:<br><a href= +=3D"https://blog.lopp.net/who-controls-bitcoin-core/" target=3D"_blank">htt= +ps://blog.lopp.net/who-controls-bitcoin-core/</a><br><a href=3D"https://med= +ium.com/@bergealex4/the-tao-of-bitcoin-development-ff093c6155cd" target=3D"= +_blank">https://medium.com/@bergealex4/the-tao-of-bitcoin-development-ff093= +c6155cd</a><br><a href=3D"https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/a-primer-on-b= +itcoin-governance-or-why-developers-aren-t-in-charge-of-the-protocol-147327= +0427" target=3D"_blank">https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/a-primer-on-bit= +coin-governance-or-why-developers-aren-t-in-charge-of-the-protocol-14732704= +27</a><br><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">- Bryan<br><a h= +ref=3D"https://twitter.com/kanzure" target=3D"_blank">https://twitter.com/k= +anzure</a></div></div></div> + +--000000000000e0a68d05fb2d6c2d-- + |