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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposed BIP extension to BIP 0070
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+Our BIP just defines protocol definitions, and doesn't really dictate how
+people use them (we're coming up with a new title for the BIP, by the way,
+to more accurately convey that). Using our definitions as building blocks,
+someone could definitely accomplish what you described. For example, Joe
+Mobile Wallet User's wallet could upload a slew of generic PaymentRequest
+messages with signatures to prove his identity, and the server could then
+create encryptedPaymentRequest messages using the server's key for
+encryption and communication with the other party. In this case the server
+would essentially be a proxy for the user without having actual access to
+the user's private keys.
+
+My personal goal with the protocol was to keep it extremely flexible so
+developers could use it to build all different types of schemes while
+keeping standard messages that could be forwarded between services if
+needed. Does the above make sense?
+
+James
+
+On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 2:55 PM Luke Dashjr via bitcoin-dev <
+bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
+
+> Is there a way for Joe Mobile Wallet User to upload a set of N
+> PaymentRequests
+> authenticated by his key to an untrusted server, which encrypts and passes
+> them on in response to InvoiceRequests? Or does this necessarily require
+> the
+> recipient to be online?
+>
+> On Tuesday, March 01, 2016 6:58:16 PM Justin Newton via bitcoin-dev wrote:
+> > The following draft BIP proposes an update to the Payment Protocol.
+> >
+> > Motivation:
+> >
+> > The motivation for defining this extension to the BIP70 Payment Protocol
+> is
+> > to allow 2 parties to exchange payment information in a permissioned and
+> > encrypted way such that wallet address communication can become a more
+> > automated process. Additionally, this extension allows for the requestor
+> of
+> > a PaymentRequest to supply a certificate and signature in order to
+> > facilitate identification for address release. This also allows
+> > for automated creation of off blockchain transaction logs that are human
+> > readable, containing who you transacted with, in addition to the
+> > information that it contains today.
+> >
+> > The motivation for this extension to BIP70 is threefold:
+> >
+> > 1. Ensure that the payment details can only be seen by the participants
+> in
+> > the transaction, and not by any third party.
+> > 2. Enhance the Payment Protocol to allow for store and forward servers in
+> > order to allow, for example, mobile wallets to sign and serve
+> > Payment Requests.
+> > 3. Allow a sender of funds the option of sharing their identity with the
+> > receiver. This information could then be used to:
+> >
+> > * Make bitcoin logs more human readable
+> > * Give the user the ability to decide who to release payment
+> > details to
+> > * Allow an entity such as a political campaign to ensure donors
+> > match regulatory and legal requirements
+> > * Allow for an open standards based way for regulated financial
+> > entities to meet regulatory requirements
+> > * Automate the active exchange of payment addresses, so static
+> > addresses and BIP32 X-Pubs can be avoided to maintain privacy
+> > and convenience
+> >
+> > In short we wanted to make bitcoin more human, while at the same time
+> > improving transaction privacy.
+> >
+> > Full proposal here:
+> >
+> >
+> https://github.com/techguy613/bips/blob/master/bip-invoicerequest-extension
+> > .mediawiki
+> >
+> > We look forward to your thoughts and feedback on this proposal!
+> >
+> > Justin
+> _______________________________________________
+> bitcoin-dev mailing list
+> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
+> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
+>
+
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+
+<div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:13px;line-height:19.5px">Our BIP =
+just defines protocol definitions, and doesn&#39;t really dictate how peopl=
+e use them (we&#39;re coming up with a new title for the BIP, by the way, t=
+o more accurately convey that). Using our definitions as building blocks, s=
+omeone could definitely accomplish what you described. For example, Joe Mob=
+ile Wallet User&#39;s wallet could upload a slew of generic PaymentRequest =
+messages with signatures to prove his identity, and the server could then c=
+reate encryptedPaymentRequest messages using the server&#39;s key for encry=
+ption and communication with the other party. In this case the server would=
+ essentially be a proxy for the user without having actual access to the us=
+er&#39;s private keys.</span><br style=3D"font-size:13px;line-height:19.5px=
+"><br style=3D"font-size:13px;line-height:19.5px"><span style=3D"font-size:=
+13px;line-height:19.5px">My personal goal with the protocol was to keep it =
+extremely flexible so developers could use it to build all different types =
+of schemes while keeping standard messages that could be forwarded between =
+services if needed. Does the above make sense?</span><div><span style=3D"li=
+ne-height:19.5px"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"line-height:19.5px">=
+James<br></span><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Mar=
+ 8, 2016 at 2:55 PM Luke Dashjr via bitcoin-dev &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitco=
+in-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>=
+&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 =
+0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Is there a way for Joe =
+Mobile Wallet User to upload a set of N PaymentRequests<br>
+authenticated by his key to an untrusted server, which encrypts and passes<=
+br>
+them on in response to InvoiceRequests? Or does this necessarily require th=
+e<br>
+recipient to be online?<br>
+<br>
+On Tuesday, March 01, 2016 6:58:16 PM Justin Newton via bitcoin-dev wrote:<=
+br>
+&gt; The following draft BIP proposes an update to the Payment Protocol.<br=
+>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Motivation:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; The motivation for defining this extension to the BIP70 Payment Protoc=
+ol is<br>
+&gt; to allow 2 parties to exchange payment information in a permissioned a=
+nd<br>
+&gt; encrypted way such that wallet address communication can become a more=
+<br>
+&gt; automated process. Additionally, this extension allows for the request=
+or of<br>
+&gt; a PaymentRequest to supply a certificate and signature in order to<br>
+&gt; facilitate identification for address release. This also allows<br>
+&gt; for automated creation of off blockchain transaction logs that are hum=
+an<br>
+&gt; readable, containing who you transacted with, in addition to the<br>
+&gt; information that it contains today.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; The motivation for this extension to BIP70 is threefold:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; 1. Ensure that the payment details can only be seen by the participant=
+s in<br>
+&gt; the transaction, and not by any third party.<br>
+&gt; 2. Enhance the Payment Protocol to allow for store and forward servers=
+ in<br>
+&gt; order to allow, for example, mobile wallets to sign and serve<br>
+&gt; Payment Requests.<br>
+&gt; 3. Allow a sender of funds the option of sharing their identity with t=
+he<br>
+&gt; receiver. This information could then be used to:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0* Make bitcoin logs more human readab=
+le<br>
+&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0* Give the user the ability to decide=
+ who to release payment<br>
+&gt; details to<br>
+&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0* Allow an entity such as a political=
+ campaign to ensure donors<br>
+&gt; match regulatory and legal requirements<br>
+&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0* Allow for an open standards based w=
+ay for regulated financial<br>
+&gt; entities to meet regulatory requirements<br>
+&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0* Automate the active exchange of pay=
+ment addresses, so static<br>
+&gt; addresses and BIP32 X-Pubs can be avoided to maintain privacy<br>
+&gt; and convenience<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; In short we wanted to make bitcoin more human, while at the same time<=
+br>
+&gt; improving transaction privacy.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Full proposal here:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; <a href=3D"https://github.com/techguy613/bips/blob/master/bip-invoicer=
+equest-extension" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/t=
+echguy613/bips/blob/master/bip-invoicerequest-extension</a><br>
+&gt; .mediawiki<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; We look forward to your thoughts and feedback on this proposal!<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Justin<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+bitcoin-dev mailing list<br>
+<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">=
+bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br>
+<a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev" =
+rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mail=
+man/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br>
+</blockquote></div></div></div>
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