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author | Jonathan Toomim <j@toom.im> | 2017-04-05 23:24:04 -0700 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2017-04-06 06:24:09 +0000 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP proposal: Inhibiting a covert attack on the Bitcoin POW function
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We have = +an entity who closely examined the code, found an unintended = +characteristic of that code, and made use of that characteristic in = +order to gain tens of millions of dollars. Now that developers are aware = +of it, they want to modify the code in order to negate as much of the = +gains as possible. + +There are differences, too, of course: the DAO attacker was explicitly = +malicious and stole Ether from others, whereas Bitmain is just = +optimizing their hardware better than anyone else and better than some = +of us think they should be allowed to. + +In both cases, developers are proposing that the developers and a = +majority of users collude to reduce the wealth of a single entity by = +altering the blockchain rules. + +In the case of the DAO fork, users were stealing back stolen funds, but = +that justification doesn't apply in this case. On the other hand, in = +this case we're talking about causing someone a loss by reducing the = +value of hardware investments rather than forcibly taking back their = +coins, which is less direct and maybe more justifiable. + +While I don't like patented mining algorithms, I also don't like the = +idea of playing Calvin Ball on the blockchain. Rule changes should not = +be employed as a means of disempowering and empoverishing particular = +entities without very good reason. Whether patenting a mining = +optimization qualifies as good reason is questionable. + +--Apple-Mail=_86F49DC1-34C4-49E2-83B0-0BFAC4802FA9 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: attachment; + filename=signature.asc +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; + name=signature.asc +Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org + +iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJY5d8FAAoJEIEuMk4MG0P1qagH/0BDweWPcotBCsymosKd9W0q +gLRiHmRhlO8HWxBV01QaUwGID3nHuFxyfLLxMNCPk34EYYoVYNS7GjDNkPk1diHt +SHCp/zqjCJGosz68EI22vgESpOQQVX9NmNVOCl7cWTC4dc/0Vq5ZPtb2B4FDFgqq +3KCnIgmhUfyBPQhXk9kE7l/xJb/aD+aW7YDutUT3mhsrNWXTsFFb8kiwuqi/wAEA +OpiaYVEhv8xTZa55dSP6zgmupY8v8mStgDAODoV2OgwUlB0Gn+j4VIgsAV/BtWS8 +yi8/YugY323QDL+GqPDpxOiP+oTZXh6HfYtyy5XOac57fIEFosF4jjXudpMez+A= +=GsrF +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--Apple-Mail=_86F49DC1-34C4-49E2-83B0-0BFAC4802FA9-- + |