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From: Antoine Riard <antoine.riard@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 18:49:17 -0500
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To: alicexbt <alicexbt@protonmail.com>
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Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Contracting Primitives WG 1st Meeting,
 Tuesday 15 Nov. 18:00 UTC
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Hi alicexbt,

CTV is listed here:
https://github.com/ariard/bitcoin-contracting-primitives-wg/tree/main/primi=
tives
as one of the primitive subject of research. Contributions are welcome.

Best,
Antoine

Le mar. 15 nov. 2022 =C3=A0 17:37, alicexbt <alicexbt@protonmail.com> a =C3=
=A9crit :

> Hi Bitcoin Developers,
>
> Looking forward to the first session, listening to everyone's thoughts
> about what could be the scope discussed by this new community process:
> anyprevout, recursive covenants, introspection, new malleability flags, Z=
K
> rollups, new contracting protocols and many more ideas!
>
>
> Wanted to add CTV: BIP-119 OP_CHECKTEMPLATEVERIFY if OP missed it.
> Easiest and best possible way to get covenants aka tx introspection with
> lot of research and development.
>
> /dev/fd0
>
> Sent with Proton Mail <https://proton.me/> secure email.
>
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Monday, November 14th, 2022 at 7:51 AM, Antoine Riard via bitcoin-dev =
<
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> Reminder: this is happening this _upcoming_ Tuesday.
>
> Looking forward to the first session, listening to everyone's thoughts
> about what could be the scope discussed by this new community process:
> anyprevout, recursive covenants, introspection, new malleability flags, Z=
K
> rollups, new contracting protocols and many more ideas!
>
> Best,
> Antoine
>
> Le lun. 31 oct. 2022 =C3=A0 20:47, Antoine Riard <antoine.riard@gmail.com=
> a
> =C3=A9crit :
>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> After I have been asked offline the exact date when those meetings were
>> actually starting, I'm proposing Tuesday 15th November at 18:00 UTC, i.e=
 2
>> weeks from now. Thinking about a monthly frequency for now (from my
>> experience attending dlcspecs/lighnting specs meetings/core dev meetings=
 in
>> the past, weekly sounds too much, biweekly/monthly sounds better though
>> dunno yet good frequency).
>>
>> If there is an incompatibility with another public engineering meeting i=
n
>> the Bitcoin space, let it know. We can talk about a better schedule duri=
ng
>> the 1st session [0].
>>
>> Communication venue is #bitcoin-contracting-primitives-wg on Libera Chat
>> [1]. Feel free to lurk already and ask questions.
>>
>> No consistent agenda beyond listening to every attendee their
>> expectations, ideas, subjects of interests they would like to see happen=
ing
>> with this new covenants/contracting primitives R&D process.
>>
>> If you have been working on a contracting
>> protocols/side-chains/rollups/other use-cases that could benefit from
>> extended Bitcoin contracting primitives, feel free to open an issue ther=
e:
>> https://github.com/ariard/bitcoin-contracting-primitives-wg/issues
>>
>> Let it know if you have more questions or feedback.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Antoine
>>
>> [0] It would be great to have a schedule inclusive of most timezones we
>> can, 18:00 UTC might be too early for Asian and Oceanic ones. Later, we
>> start to be exclusive towards contributors in Eastern Europe.
>>
>> [1] There have been more voices suggesting jitsi/audio-based meetings
>> rather than IRC. It's a cool format too, though coming with trade-offs.
>>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Hi alicexbt,<br><br></div>CTV is listed her=
e: <a href=3D"https://github.com/ariard/bitcoin-contracting-primitives-wg/t=
ree/main/primitives">https://github.com/ariard/bitcoin-contracting-primitiv=
es-wg/tree/main/primitives</a> as one of the primitive subject of research.=
 Contributions are welcome.<br><br></div>Best,<br></div>Antoine<br></div><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Le=C2=A0=
mar. 15 nov. 2022 =C3=A0=C2=A017:37, alicexbt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alicexb=
t@protonmail.com">alicexbt@protonmail.com</a>&gt; a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"font-fa=
mily:Arial;font-size:14px">Hi Bitcoin Developers,</div><div style=3D"font-f=
amily:Arial;font-size:14px"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-=
size:14px"><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"padding:0px 0px 0px 1rem;marg=
in:0px;border-left:4px solid rgb(229,229,229);font-family:system-ui,sans-se=
rif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><span>Looking =
forward to the first session, listening to everyone&#39;s thoughts about wh=
at could be the scope discussed by this new community process: anyprevout, =
recursive covenants, introspection, new malleability flags, ZK rollups, new=
 contracting protocols and many more ideas!</span></div></div></blockquote>=
</div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:14px"><br></div><div style=
=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:14px">Wanted to add CTV:=C2=A0<span>BIP-119=
 OP_CHECKTEMPLATEVERIFY if OP missed it. Easiest and best possible way to g=
et covenants aka tx introspection with lot of research and development.</sp=
an></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:14px"><span><br></span><=
/div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:14px"><span>/dev/fd0</span><=
/div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:14px"><span><br></span></div=
>
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:14px">
    <div>
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            </div>
   =20
            <div>
        Sent with <a href=3D"https://proton.me/" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">Proton Mail</a> secure email.
    </div>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:14px"><br></div><div>
        ------- Original Message -------<br>
        On Monday, November 14th, 2022 at 7:51 AM, Antoine Riard via bitcoi=
n-dev &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=
=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>
        <blockquote type=3D"cite">
            <div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Reminder: this is happening thi=
s _upcoming_ Tuesday. <br><br></div>Looking forward to the first session, l=
istening to everyone&#39;s thoughts about what could be the scope discussed=
 by this new community process: anyprevout, recursive covenants, introspect=
ion, new malleability flags, ZK rollups, new contracting protocols and many=
 more ideas! <br><br></div>Best,<br></div>Antoine<br></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">Le lun. 31 oct. 2022=
 =C3=A0 20:47, Antoine Riard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:antoine.riard@gmail.com"=
 rel=3D"noreferrer nofollow noopener" target=3D"_blank">antoine.riard@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; a =C3=A9crit :<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi list,<br><div><br>After I have been asked o=
ffline the exact date when those meetings were actually starting, I&#39;m p=
roposing Tuesday 15th November at 18:00 UTC, i.e 2 weeks from now. Thinking=
 about a monthly frequency for now (from my experience attending dlcspecs/l=
ighnting specs meetings/core dev meetings in the past, weekly sounds too mu=
ch, biweekly/monthly sounds better though dunno yet good frequency).<br><br=
>If there is an incompatibility with another public engineering meeting in =
the Bitcoin space, let it know. We can talk about a better schedule during =
the 1st session [0].<br><br>Communication venue is #bitcoin-contracting-pri=
mitives-wg on Libera Chat [1]. Feel free to lurk already and ask questions.=
<br><br>No consistent agenda beyond listening to every attendee their expec=
tations, ideas, subjects of interests they would like to see happening with=
 this new covenants/contracting primitives R&amp;D process.<br><br>If you h=
ave been working on a contracting protocols/side-chains/rollups/other use-c=
ases that could benefit from extended Bitcoin contracting primitives, feel =
free to open an issue there: <a href=3D"https://github.com/ariard/bitcoin-c=
ontracting-primitives-wg/issues" rel=3D"noreferrer nofollow noopener" targe=
t=3D"_blank">https://github.com/ariard/bitcoin-contracting-primitives-wg/is=
sues</a><br><br>Let it know if you have more questions or feedback.<br><br>=
Cheers,<br>Antoine<br><br>[0] It would be great to have a schedule inclusiv=
e of most timezones we can, 18:00 UTC might be too early for Asian and Ocea=
nic ones. Later, we start to be exclusive towards contributors in Eastern E=
urope.<br><br>[1] There have been more voices suggesting jitsi/audio-based =
meetings rather than IRC. It&#39;s a cool format too, though coming with tr=
ade-offs.<br></div></div>
</blockquote></div>

        </blockquote><br>
    </div></blockquote></div>

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