Return-Path: <gmaxwell@gmail.com> Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE5DDBFF for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 02:28:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-ua0-f178.google.com (mail-ua0-f178.google.com [209.85.217.178]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BDB1CF for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 02:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ua0-f178.google.com with SMTP id x47so37928159uab.0 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Thu, 01 Jun 2017 19:28:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=m+3Xs85LI9O4AaugAdM7P6T+STP6UppLdyjrfh8zQqY=; b=XdC2cmub3u1Pu11YTH3+iqTBh2/hzsocU8Hnfp7VoDL+XGiMqao3jyegMpuIkeAwz+ DWApLKoZJKNe7y/yIjoZgjTF06QIEeN5baeoib8nn5/cb6yu1+UAYNyEamtzPuyhCaGZ jOH4ck356AvFWrKWQPrBtpkzxxbmtkf/cg5+OUjBxAkNQJlGH4QOvqhqClRN8bojJ0V5 sgEGuHwmN5KIoebxOwHO7yWbjFEfVIodSYlrpBikmY5RieP5mT14cgfide8/RFIxi4Zt GppZwo+rGENbq8m9BHzpPIoTTFhjNFEqc+EEWYVmgPbqTGANkwOvIq3gTUKoHKFAL5I6 UvIg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=m+3Xs85LI9O4AaugAdM7P6T+STP6UppLdyjrfh8zQqY=; b=p42vdaTlNTONZ7Fmp8K9f4qq2vw9d5Zwcqyc72laqOshjxzkQ+271EeGarL1pcOZuS 0f5BvaNXEcedgLX+LRm5kOxo0bs7JNkO0UIEwqT08J9Li5yEI29y51DQsyX59dFnF655 8abC0K+ZFgnQMMRMh4egxhmEmQf0dxUw7LJHLzUPCNzsmLyOy4YDH61NfpVq45HRQ1ll 5YguILJtcforVwmum2/NAjzQBmad02uIcJVV8AkfHw40bp5SEa9fzbVbP2CZAsWT4hAk tWmvep3PeJ/ceq9ZaeyaXg4IMQicUIblI9qTNidoYG9aQ/ee9kMHlSox1ZhRhOWY+iZL W0jA== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcA1sy76iKwI+/M0eXnffd4sQvRJUF/DNLn5pujnrwo08jsz3dUp WbjbmmIF8Mj6L2zkdN8pVOLt0fm28g== X-Received: by 10.176.2.48 with SMTP id 45mr2589565uas.30.1496370534644; Thu, 01 Jun 2017 19:28:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: gmaxwell@gmail.com Received: by 10.103.20.66 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 19:28:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <73a6d59a-7e79-5d48-40cd-5c6f59abc122@gmail.com> References: <CAO3Pvs8ccTkgrecJG6KFbBW+9moHF-FTU+4qNfayeE3hM9uRrg@mail.gmail.com> <B445007A-9FA3-4B1D-8CD0-F0371602DC5F@mattcorallo.com> <CAO3Pvs-q89HDb9a9xtYMBm8RNtaQH1d+5B6S1YPk3C0JWM+vzA@mail.gmail.com> <73a6d59a-7e79-5d48-40cd-5c6f59abc122@gmail.com> From: Gregory Maxwell <greg@xiph.org> Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 02:28:54 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: i-3D3lzaHWBdf8pnb842c11KEqM Message-ID: <CAAS2fgQv14qPV5d1xFjjxpoo4gj4pG1fBKLZs95vJFYa42zC9g@mail.gmail.com> To: Chris <ctpacia@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Proposal: Compact Client Side Filtering for Light Clients X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 02:28:55 -0000 On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 2:15 AM, Chris via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > On 06/01/2017 06:10 PM, Olaoluwa Osuntokun via bitcoin-dev wrote: > >> One aspect which isn't in this BIP draft is direct support for unconfirmed >> transactions. I consider such a feature an important UX feature for mobile >> phones, and something which I've personally seen as an important >> UX-experience when on-boarding new users to Bitcoin. > > Totally agree. My first thought is maybe you could keep bip37 filtering > as optional for unconfirmed transactions. Since you're only interested Really bad for privacy. Data for transactions at the tip is only 14kb/s-- potentially less if segwit is in use and you're not getting witnesses. Is that really that burdensome? FWIW, leaving a mobile browser just running while pointed at some websites seems to use more traffic than that just loading advertising. :)