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From: Flavien Charlon <flavien.charlon@coinprism.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 16:19:20 +0100
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Ok, I guess I'm not using the proper terminology. It would be listed on the
"Asset" section of the company's balance sheet, is what I meant.


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Mark Friedenbach <mark@monetize.io> wrote:

> Flavien, capital is wealth or resources available for the stated purpose
> of the company. These bitcoins represent nothing more than a speculative
> floor owned by the investors, not the company.
>
> On 04/07/2014 07:00 AM, Flavien Charlon wrote:
> > Jorge, they'd have to be. Otherwise, assuming the price of the share
> > goes low enough, you could buy a share of the company, melt the gold
> > plate, and sell it for a profit. If the gold is part of the capital of
> > the company, the cheapest a share can be is the price of the gold on
> > which the stock certificate is printed.
> >
> > This is why I think the importance of padding with colored coins is
> > overblown.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Jorge Tim=F3n <jtimon@monetize.io
> > <mailto:jtimon@monetize.io>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 4/7/14, Flavien Charlon <flavien.charlon@coinprism.com
> >     <mailto:flavien.charlon@coinprism.com>> wrote:
> >     > Also those 54 BTC (actually 5.4 BTC if the dust is now 540
> >     satoshis) become
> >     > part of the capital of the company, and can always be recovered b=
y
> >     > uncoloring the shares. It's an investment, not an expense, so I
> >     think it is
> >     > acceptable.
> >
> >     This doesn't make much sense to me.
> >     If you print shares on gold plates instead of paper, is that gold
> >     "part of the capital of the company"? I don't think so.
> >
> >
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Ok, I guess I&#39;m not using the proper terminology.=
 It would be listed on the &quot;Asset&quot; section of the company&#39;s b=
alance sheet, is what I meant.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><b=
r>

<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Mark Friedenbach=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@monetize.io" target=3D"_blank=
">mark@monetize.io</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

Flavien, capital is wealth or resources available for the stated purpose<br=
>
of the company. These bitcoins represent nothing more than a speculative<br=
>
floor owned by the investors, not the company.<br>
<div class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br>
On 04/07/2014 07:00 AM, Flavien Charlon wrote:<br>
&gt; Jorge, they&#39;d have to be. Otherwise, assuming the price of the sha=
re<br>
&gt; goes low enough, you could buy a share of the company, melt the gold<b=
r>
&gt; plate, and sell it for a profit. If the gold is part of the capital of=
<br>
&gt; the company, the cheapest a share can be is the price of the gold on<b=
r>
&gt; which the stock certificate is printed.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; This is why I think the importance of padding with colored coins is<br=
>
&gt; overblown.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Jorge Tim=F3n &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jt=
imon@monetize.io">jtimon@monetize.io</a><br>
</div><div class=3D"im HOEnZb">&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:jtimon@mon=
etize.io">jtimon@monetize.io</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0 On 4/7/14, Flavien Charlon &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:flavien.charl=
on@coinprism.com">flavien.charlon@coinprism.com</a><br>
</div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">&gt; =A0 =A0 &lt;mailto:<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:flavien.charlon@coinprism.com">flavien.charlon@coinprism.com</=
a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0 &gt; Also those 54 BTC (actually 5.4 BTC if the dust is now 54=
0<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0 satoshis) become<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0 &gt; part of the capital of the company, and can always be rec=
overed by<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0 &gt; uncoloring the shares. It&#39;s an investment, not an exp=
ense, so I<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0 think it is<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0 &gt; acceptable.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0 This doesn&#39;t make much sense to me.<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0 If you print shares on gold plates instead of paper, is that g=
old<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0 &quot;part of the capital of the company&quot;? I don&#39;t th=
ink so.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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