Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 450DCA84 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2017 18:09:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (relay2-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.194]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6E0046F for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2017 18:09:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Originating-IP: 178.19.221.38 Received: from [10.10.42.98] (unknown [178.19.221.38]) (Authenticated sender: thomasv@electrum.org) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 27980C5A55; Tue, 5 Sep 2017 20:09:19 +0200 (CEST) To: Luke Dashjr , "bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" References: <43636dd6-ab9e-da15-59ae-f31eb11ff7ff@electrum.org> <201709051303.43410.luke@dashjr.org> From: Thomas Voegtlin Message-ID: <41fb5a09-a964-a81b-497e-70a930b6923c@electrum.org> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 20:09:19 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201709051303.43410.luke@dashjr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=disabled version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal: bip32 version bytes for segwit scripts X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2017 18:09:22 -0000 On 05.09.2017 19:03, Luke Dashjr wrote: > It seems desirable to use the same seed for all different script formats... That does not seem desirable to everybody. If you want to guarantee that users will be able to recover all their funds from their mnemonic seed (and that is what they expect), then wallets must implement all script formats, even the ones that are deprecated. In addition, the list of script formats that must be supported is not defined in advance, but it keeps growing. This makes wallet implementation increasingly difficult. In the long run, seed portability is guaranteed to fail in such a system. > As you note, xpub\xprv are already being used for both P2PKH and P2SH. It > really doesn't make sense to differentiate segwit specifically. That's not a reason. The fact that xpub/xprv can be used for both P2PKH and P2SH has already resulted in users receiving coins on addresses they do not control.