Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WXD1F-0002Sw-6x for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 17:07:37 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of zikula.org designates 209.85.212.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.182; envelope-from=drak@zikula.org; helo=mail-wi0-f182.google.com; Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com ([209.85.212.182]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WXD1E-0003Fq-47 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 17:07:37 +0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f182.google.com with SMTP id d1so5439922wiv.15 for ; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 10:07:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=7kl+BzG9m/WolKp1JcPiuvZAq4woa9/N9CcsafT2tfs=; b=aGzd7IvyLmtJNckcG/OOsxXxET05gs1I6oGgTYBSEiOT531RtW+BQ5VKJ0BzsX8J2J MMY30xxf4AHgTXHtGIn19+Xcvk69JSPC14brrFKB5jPdBMlzm6E/J5kc01h3FscWVhYD QTv+/MPyvefLCg9fphJOG3wmXiOFqON/vFvzPkX9mppCu8VB5djr/reCCWnLQqSNOHtb Kz988nxCj+9G8yqLExDDCOSVwwZjZ6Vuiss4UNwSXAJL86z2RJzTh8a/oHQ3NfW2FWRZ sf/XrGGkZe3iZgVVU6VkCiLEVjTsBdFkhXDdj/Xwb9IcM88WOIO6ZiWCekMC0lSaZJ8p +ZtQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlplp7TihNscCOKkiHMj9+2THy6rjLPD9G9RqLMzt1d44xNgG4AqoOZRMolTkvvE8YhbRGf X-Received: by 10.180.87.233 with SMTP id bb9mr26672196wib.10.1396890449543; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 10:07:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.205.69 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Apr 2014 10:07:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Drak Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 18:07:09 +0100 Message-ID: To: Mike Hearn Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044480af0a955704f676e776 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Headers-End: 1WXD1E-0003Fq-47 Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Why are we bleeding nodes? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 17:07:37 -0000 --f46d044480af0a955704f676e776 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 For what it's worth, the number of nodes rose dramatically during the China bullrun (I recall 45k in China alone) and dropped as dramatically as the price after the first PBOC announcement designed to cool down bitcoin trading in China. On 7 April 2014 12:34, Mike Hearn wrote: > At the start of February we had 10,000 bitcoin nodes. Now we have 8,500 > and still falling: > > http://getaddr.bitnodes.io/dashboard/chart/?days=60 > > I know all the reasons why people *might* stop running a node (uses too > much disk space, bandwidth, lost interest etc). But does anyone have any > idea how we might get more insight into what's really going on? It'd be > convenient if the subVer contained the operating system, as then we could > tell if the bleed was mostly from desktops/laptops (Windows/Mac), which > would be expected, or from virtual servers (Linux), which would be more > concerning. > > When you set up a Tor node, you can add your email address to the config > file and the Tor project sends you emails from time to time about things > you should know about. If we did the same, we could have a little exit > survey: if your node disappears for long enough, we could email the > operator and ask why they stopped. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Put Bad Developers to Shame > Dominate Development with Jenkins Continuous Integration > Continuously Automate Build, Test & Deployment > Start a new project now. Try Jenkins in the cloud. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/13600_Cloudbees_APR > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > > --f46d044480af0a955704f676e776 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For what it's worth, the number of nodes rose dramatic= ally during the China bullrun (I recall 45k in China alone) and dropped as = dramatically as the price after the first PBOC announcement designed to coo= l down bitcoin trading in China.


On 7 April 20= 14 12:34, Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> wrote:
At the start of February we had 10,000 bitcoin nodes. Now = we have 8,500 and still falling:


I know all the reasons why people might=C2= =A0stop running a node (uses too much disk space, bandwidth, lost interest = etc). But does anyone have any idea how we might get more insight into what= 's really going on? It'd be convenient if the subVer contained the = operating system, as then we could tell if the bleed was mostly from deskto= ps/laptops (Windows/Mac), which would be expected, or from virtual servers = (Linux), which would be more concerning.

When you set up a Tor node, you can add your email addr= ess to the config file and the Tor project sends you emails from time to ti= me about things you should know about. If we did the same, we could have a = little exit survey: if your node disappears for long enough, we could email= the operator and ask why they stopped.

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