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From: Anon Moto <daggerhashimoto@gmail.com>
To: satoshi@vistomail.com
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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork
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Satoshi,

As much as I want to believe this is you it's very difficult to ignore the
fact that Vistomail could have been hacked and I'm currently speaking to a
troll.
Can you copy and paste what you wrote above, to
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com as well, like how you did during the Dorian
fiasco?


Much appreciated.


On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Satoshi Nakamoto via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> I have been following the recent block size debates through the mailing
> list.  I had hoped the debate would resolve and that a fork proposal would
> achieve widespread consensus.  However with the formal release of Bitcoin
> XT 0.11A, this looks unlikely to happen, and so I am forced to share my
> concerns about this very dangerous fork.
>
> The developers of this pretender-Bitcoin claim to be following my original
> vision, but nothing could be further from the truth.  When I designed
> Bitcoin, I designed it in such a way as to make future modifications to the
> consensus rules difficult without near unanimous agreement.  Bitcoin was
> designed to be protected from the influence of charismatic leaders, even if
> their name is Gavin Andresen, Barack Obama, or Satoshi Nakamoto.  Nearly
> everyone has to agree on a change, and they have to do it without being
> forced or pressured into it.  By doing a fork in this way, these developers
> are violating the "original vision" they claim to honour.
>
> They use my old writings to make claims about what Bitcoin was supposed to
> be.  However I acknowledge that a lot has changed since that time, and new
> knowledge has been gained that contradicts some of my early opinions.  For
> example I didn't anticipate pooled mining and its effects on the security
> of the network.  Making Bitcoin a competitive monetary system while also
> preserving its security properties is not a trivial problem, and we should
> take more time to come up with a robust solution.  I suspect we need a
> better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relying solely on
> altruism.
>
> If two developers can fork Bitcoin and succeed in redefining what
> "Bitcoin" is, in the face of widespread technical criticism and through the
> use of populist tactics, then I will have no choice but to declare Bitcoin
> a failed project.  Bitcoin was meant to be both technically and socially
> robust.  This present situation has been very disappointing to watch unfold.
>
> Satoshi Nakamoto
>
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> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Satoshi, <br><br></div>As much as I want to=
 believe this is you it&#39;s very difficult to ignore the fact that Vistom=
ail could have been hacked and I&#39;m currently speaking to a troll. <br><=
/div>Can you copy and paste what you wrote above, to <a href=3D"http://p2pf=
oundation.ning.com">http://p2pfoundation.ning.com</a> as well, like how you=
 did during the Dorian fiasco? <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>Much=
 appreciated. <br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote">On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Satoshi Nakamoto via bitcoin-d=
ev <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundatio=
n.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt;</spa=
n> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I have been following the recen=
t block size debates through the mailing list.=C2=A0 I had hoped the debate=
 would resolve and that a fork proposal would achieve widespread consensus.=
=C2=A0 However with the formal release of Bitcoin XT 0.11A, this looks unli=
kely to happen, and so I am forced to share my concerns about this very dan=
gerous fork.<br>
<br>
The developers of this pretender-Bitcoin claim to be following my original =
vision, but nothing could be further from the truth.=C2=A0 When I designed =
Bitcoin, I designed it in such a way as to make future modifications to the=
 consensus rules difficult without near unanimous agreement.=C2=A0 Bitcoin =
was designed to be protected from the influence of charismatic leaders, eve=
n if their name is Gavin Andresen, Barack Obama, or Satoshi Nakamoto.=C2=A0=
 Nearly everyone has to agree on a change, and they have to do it without b=
eing forced or pressured into it.=C2=A0 By doing a fork in this way, these =
developers are violating the &quot;original vision&quot; they claim to hono=
ur.<br>
<br>
They use my old writings to make claims about what Bitcoin was supposed to =
be.=C2=A0 However I acknowledge that a lot has changed since that time, and=
 new knowledge has been gained that contradicts some of my early opinions.=
=C2=A0 For example I didn&#39;t anticipate pooled mining and its effects on=
 the security of the network.=C2=A0 Making Bitcoin a competitive monetary s=
ystem while also preserving its security properties is not a trivial proble=
m, and we should take more time to come up with a robust solution.=C2=A0 I =
suspect we need a better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relyin=
g solely on altruism.<br>
<br>
If two developers can fork Bitcoin and succeed in redefining what &quot;Bit=
coin&quot; is, in the face of widespread technical criticism and through th=
e use of populist tactics, then I will have no choice but to declare Bitcoi=
n a failed project.=C2=A0 Bitcoin was meant to be both technically and soci=
ally robust.=C2=A0 This present situation has been very disappointing to wa=
tch unfold.<br>
<br>
Satoshi Nakamoto<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
bitcoin-dev mailing list<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.=
linuxfoundation.org</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mail=
man/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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