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See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (saivann[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: geotrust.com] -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1Vpakn-0006vb-4J Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Dedicated server for bitcoin.org, your thoughts? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 09:34:23 -0000 Forward secrecy: I was definitively already interested in using this. Binaries: Sourceforge is not encrypted, actually. Although binaries hosting / sharing could be a separate subject discussed later I think. Revocation: I guess we could just buy another SSL cert from another CA (I mean, if that really happens). There's a few ones that are not US based. Decentralization: So long as we actually use DNS, the website is centralized :( However, its content isn't (can be forked on GitHub), but regarding the domain name, there is not much we can do against this AFAIK. Saïvann Le 2013-12-07 22:38, Odinn Cyberguerrilla a écrit : > Hello, re. the dedicated server for bitcoin.org idea, I have a few thoughts > > 1) I have commented in a blogpost of August 2013 at > https://odinn.cyberguerrilla.org/ with some thoughts relative to possible > issues with CA related to bitcoin.org - where I mentioned something > relative to the DigiCert certificate, > "DigiCert “may revoke a Certificate, without notice, for the reasons > stated in the CPS, including if DigiCert reasonably believes that” (…) > “Applicant is added to a government list of prohibited persons or entities > or is operating from a prohibited destination under the laws of the United > States” (…) “the Private Key associated with a Certificate was disclosed > or Compromised”" > In the same post I mentioned > "Bitcoin.org has no certificate, no encryption — a situation which has its > own obvious problems. Bitcoin.org currently sends users to download the > bitcoin-qt client from sourceforge. Sourceforge is encrypted and has a > certificate based on GeoTrust: > https://www.geotrust.com/resources/repository/legal/" > > (Currently (Dec. 7, 2013) bitcoin.org shows as 'not verified' and 'not > encrypted' examining it in a cursory fashion w/ Chrome) > > Not sure how this would work, but it would be nice to see the content at > bitcoin.org encrypted, of course, but also further decentralized? how many > mirrors are there of bitcoin.org - not sure, but a few things that come to > mind when thinking of this are Tahoe-LAFS and also .bit stuff (namecoin). > There are many ways to decentralize something but that is just something > that comes to mind. > > This has been discussed at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16312.0 > ('Is Bitcoin.org a weakness of bitcoin?) in the past and see also this > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119652.0 which discusses mirroring > of certain content > > Some things to think about. > >> I would like to know what are your thoughts on moving bitcoin.org on a >> dedicated server with a SSL certificate? >> >> I am considering the idea more seriously, but I'd like some feedback >> before taking steps. >> >> Saïvann >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK >> Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. >> Download it for free now! >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Bitcoin-development mailing list >> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK > Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. > Download it for free now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development >