Return-Path: <sergio.d.lerner@gmail.com> Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 727F2486 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 01:04:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-oi0-f50.google.com (mail-oi0-f50.google.com [209.85.218.50]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B64EE157 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 01:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by oiew67 with SMTP id w67so92604205oie.2 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 18:04:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=FbfnMsgCCpNMcHWanVkvkEGVUV6ZYKuAw2hUY0K4mo8=; b=UXtfDatdRm/0SViIIcnuzU4LmRKIUfaq4owRacJUg6JXClayGMB5SCJJH9Qcg26HFZ r9HXf4blfGb8u5MbLc+/eQ5dR3R2LVuTdgHzkhTpRr1q1SbFzCtE/IZv0E3C1Ml2YwNP /k3i3tWt3h7z1SXOB05RJhnQDmAe+Rovf2G151uI2rvB8IIpUaITSjkWQZ9OGAl/iq1z +q0YvCIFIPzpR/5GOoUvPF4hW/nbWtVh5BzxSc/266U0PMRh5lSFCYBC34fINwKMCfQr tdni2u3y+Rzqb6tUKY1X0et4LA3S3XQPTnMqB3tlIRcECv0Pgqf6wI8fmuK9kDvgvtUT pCSw== X-Received: by 10.202.83.66 with SMTP id h63mr7971233oib.119.1439946273091; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 18:04:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.202.78.77 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 18:03:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <CAH2CxRASFOfSxAp4a-6N8CcQipwQA1qn7kk0-98LeV1wCKfREw@mail.gmail.com> References: <6EC9DDF352DC4838AE9B088AB372428A25E1F42A@DS04> <55D1C81D.4070402@olivere.de> <CAEz79PrqhSOJzTNWRDv5UfRJa1-f=1OE_pDs0vtHazHso1_5pw@mail.gmail.com> <55D24625.40806@olivere.de> <CAEz79PoMgax-Jk1UYP82XzK13r=-e7mgSvpsDE1h4bOATZbKCg@mail.gmail.com> <55D38025.4030605@olivere.de> <CAH2CxRASFOfSxAp4a-6N8CcQipwQA1qn7kk0-98LeV1wCKfREw@mail.gmail.com> From: Sergio Demian Lerner <sergio.d.lerner@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 22:03:53 -0300 Message-ID: <CAKzdR-oABTSE_rxi0PgdzKMeZXp1A2+e8RrWvufM+euMOOJLXg@mail.gmail.com> To: Anon Moto <daggerhashimoto@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113de1de1a766b051d9f9ef0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Arnoud Kouwenhoven - Pukaki Corp via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 01:04:34 -0000 --001a113de1de1a766b051d9f9ef0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Just to add some superfluous and unessential spice to this discussion, there were two Satoshi users originally registered in sourceforge, one registered very soon after the other. So I say Satoshi were at least two people, so it may be the case that one Satoshi re-appeared, but the other did not. Ore maybe one Satoshi is for Bitcoin XT, and the other Satoshi is against it. Satoshi wars! On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Anon Moto via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > And this is how the powers that be compromise bitcoin. They can't stop > TCP/IP, but they sure can take over the development team. It's a good thing > that no one from the CIA has had any conversations with anyone from the > bitcoin development team. Phew... > > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Oliver Egginger via bitcoin-dev < > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > >> Am 18.08.2015 um 11:15 schrieb Warren Togami Jr.: >> > I honestly don't understand your position, but I get the sense that you >> > are suggesting Satoshi wouldn't be welcome to return if he wanted to be >> > active in development again? >> >> Who am I? Personally I have zero objection if the creator steps in. I >> think he would be highly welcome by the most people. At first I had the >> impression that the email was a fake, but maybe I was wrong. At the >> moment I think: Maybe it's even the best if we do not know exactly >> whether it was Satoshi or not. >> >> Unanimity is mission critical for Bitcoin and must be an absolute >> priority. If not the vast majority is in favor for a fork, then the fork >> should be avoided until a consensus is found. Even if it takes until the >> cows come home. >> >> But it is very likely now that it will come to a fork. No matter which >> site will win, this will produce a lot of humiliated people at the end. >> That's not good and leads to bitterness on both sites. >> >> - oliver >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> bitcoin-dev mailing list >> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org >> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >> > > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > > --001a113de1de1a766b051d9f9ef0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Just to add some superfluous and unessential spice to this= discussion, there were two Satoshi users originally registered in sourcefo= rge, one registered very soon after the other. So I say Satoshi were at lea= st two people, so it may be the case that one Satoshi re-appeared, but the = other did not.=C2=A0<div><br><div>Ore maybe one Satoshi is for Bitcoin XT, = and the other Satoshi is against it.</div><div><br></div><div>Satoshi wars!= <br><div><br></div></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div cl= ass=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Anon Moto via bitcoin-= dev <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundati= on.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>></sp= an> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;= border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">And this is h= ow the powers that be compromise bitcoin. They can't stop TCP/IP, but t= hey sure can take over the development team. It's a good thing that no = one from the CIA has had any conversations with anyone from the bitcoin dev= elopment team. Phew...<br><br></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"= ><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 18, = 2015 at 11:57 AM, Oliver Egginger via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a = href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bit= coin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote cla= ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa= dding-left:1ex"><span>Am 18.08.2015 um 11:15 schrieb Warren Togami Jr.:<br> > I honestly don't understand your position, but I get the sense tha= t you<br> > are suggesting Satoshi wouldn't be welcome to return if he wanted = to be<br> > active in development again?<br> <br> </span>Who am I? Personally I have zero objection if the creator steps in. = I<br> think he would be highly welcome by the most people. At first I had the<br> impression that the email was a fake, but maybe I was wrong. At the<br> moment I think: Maybe it's even the best if we do not know exactly<br> whether it was Satoshi or not.<br> <br> Unanimity is mission critical for Bitcoin and must be an absolute<br> priority. If not the vast majority is in favor for a fork, then the fork<br= > should be avoided until a consensus is found. Even if it takes until the<br= > cows come home.<br> <br> But it is very likely now that it will come to a fork. No matter which<br> site will win, this will produce a lot of humiliated people at the end.<br> That's not good and leads to bitterness on both sites.<br> <div><div><br> - oliver<br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> bitcoin-dev mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">= bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev" = rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mail= man/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> </div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br> bitcoin-dev mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.= linuxfoundation.org</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev" = rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mail= man/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br></div> --001a113de1de1a766b051d9f9ef0--