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Just to add some superfluous and unessential spice to this discussion,
there were two Satoshi users originally registered in sourceforge, one
registered very soon after the other. So I say Satoshi were at least two
people, so it may be the case that one Satoshi re-appeared, but the other
did not.

Ore maybe one Satoshi is for Bitcoin XT, and the other Satoshi is against
it.

Satoshi wars!


On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Anon Moto via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> And this is how the powers that be compromise bitcoin. They can't stop
> TCP/IP, but they sure can take over the development team. It's a good thing
> that no one from the CIA has had any conversations with anyone from the
> bitcoin development team. Phew...
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Oliver Egginger via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> Am 18.08.2015 um 11:15 schrieb Warren Togami Jr.:
>> > I honestly don't understand your position, but I get the sense that you
>> > are suggesting Satoshi wouldn't be welcome to return if he wanted to be
>> > active in development again?
>>
>> Who am I? Personally I have zero objection if the creator steps in. I
>> think he would be highly welcome by the most people. At first I had the
>> impression that the email was a fake, but maybe I was wrong. At the
>> moment I think: Maybe it's even the best if we do not know exactly
>> whether it was Satoshi or not.
>>
>> Unanimity is mission critical for Bitcoin and must be an absolute
>> priority. If not the vast majority is in favor for a fork, then the fork
>> should be avoided until a consensus is found. Even if it takes until the
>> cows come home.
>>
>> But it is very likely now that it will come to a fork. No matter which
>> site will win, this will produce a lot of humiliated people at the end.
>> That's not good and leads to bitterness on both sites.
>>
>> - oliver
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Just to add some superfluous and unessential spice to this=
 discussion, there were two Satoshi users originally registered in sourcefo=
rge, one registered very soon after the other. So I say Satoshi were at lea=
st two people, so it may be the case that one Satoshi re-appeared, but the =
other did not.=C2=A0<div><br><div>Ore maybe one Satoshi is for Bitcoin XT, =
and the other Satoshi is against it.</div><div><br></div><div>Satoshi wars!=
<br><div><br></div></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Anon Moto via bitcoin-=
dev <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundati=
on.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt;</sp=
an> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">And this is h=
ow the powers that be compromise bitcoin. They can&#39;t stop TCP/IP, but t=
hey sure can take over the development team. It&#39;s a good thing that no =
one from the CIA has had any conversations with anyone from the bitcoin dev=
elopment team. Phew...<br><br></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 18, =
2015 at 11:57 AM, Oliver Egginger via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bit=
coin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex"><span>Am 18.08.2015 um 11:15 schrieb Warren Togami Jr.:<br>
&gt; I honestly don&#39;t understand your position, but I get the sense tha=
t you<br>
&gt; are suggesting Satoshi wouldn&#39;t be welcome to return if he wanted =
to be<br>
&gt; active in development again?<br>
<br>
</span>Who am I? Personally I have zero objection if the creator steps in. =
I<br>
think he would be highly welcome by the most people. At first I had the<br>
impression that the email was a fake, but maybe I was wrong. At the<br>
moment I think: Maybe it&#39;s even the best if we do not know exactly<br>
whether it was Satoshi or not.<br>
<br>
Unanimity is mission critical for Bitcoin and must be an absolute<br>
priority. If not the vast majority is in favor for a fork, then the fork<br=
>
should be avoided until a consensus is found. Even if it takes until the<br=
>
cows come home.<br>
<br>
But it is very likely now that it will come to a fork. No matter which<br>
site will win, this will produce a lot of humiliated people at the end.<br>
That&#39;s not good and leads to bitterness on both sites.<br>
<div><div><br>
- oliver<br>
<br>
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