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Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 15:09:20 +0100
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From: Tier Nolan <tier.nolan@gmail.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposed alternatives to the 20MB step
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On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen@gmail.com>
wrote:

> But if there is still no consensus among developers but the "bigger blocks
> now" movement is successful, I'll ask for help getting big miners to do the
> same, and use the soft-fork block version voting mechanism to (hopefully)
> get a majority and then a super-majority willing to produce bigger blocks.
> The purpose of that process is to prove to any doubters that they'd better
> start supporting bigger blocks or they'll be left behind, and to give them
> a chance to upgrade before that happens.
>

How do you define that the movement is successful?

For


> Because if we can't come to consensus here, the ultimate authority for
> determining consensus is what code the majority of merchants and exchanges
> and miners are running.
>

The measure is miner consensus.  How do you intend to measure
exchange/merchant acceptance?

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te">On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Gavin Andresen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:gavinandresen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gavinandresen@g=
mail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div></div><div>But if there is still no consensus among developer=
s but the &quot;bigger blocks now&quot; movement is successful, I&#39;ll as=
k for help getting big miners to do the same, and use the soft-fork block v=
ersion voting mechanism to (hopefully) get a majority and then a super-majo=
rity willing to produce bigger blocks. The purpose of that process is to pr=
ove to any doubters that they&#39;d better start supporting bigger blocks o=
r they&#39;ll be left behind, and to give them a chance to upgrade before t=
hat happens.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>How do you define =
that the movement is successful?<br></div><br>For <br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><div>Because if we can&#39;t come to consensus here, the ultimate authori=
ty for determining consensus is what code the majority of merchants and exc=
hanges and miners are running.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>=
The measure is miner consensus.=C2=A0 How do you intend to measure exchange=
/merchant acceptance?<br></div></div></div></div>

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