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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Reconsider build system change?
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On Jul 2, 2011, at 12:31 PM, John Smith wrote:
> So, what about native build script generation for other platforms? =
autotools can only generate makefiles (with at least two intermediate =
code generation steps), which is quite limited.=20

This would be true if gmake didn't build/run basically everywhere; but, =
it does.

> IMO cmake is simple and elegant compared to the autotools monster. I =
don't see why it would be "just as bad". And I have quite some =
experience with both systems. Autotools is a hell to debug. cmake =
certainly isn't perfect, but at least it's a leap forward.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending autotools' design or =
implementation. It is; however, more ubiquitous and understood by a much =
wider audience.

> BTW for cmake there is "ccmake" which is even better than configure =
--help as it offers an interactive interface for configuration.

I would say that's actually a mark against cmake. If you need a gui to =
select build options because your cli doesn't have proper help output =
something is wrong.

If you're willing to setup and maintain a cmake build environment I =
wouldn't say it should be rejected outright. Speculating about it =
without an implementation to compare seems like a waste of time.

Especially when jaromil already has a mostly-functional autotools setup. =
It needs tweaking still and some changes to catch up and rebase, but it =
works. He also already did the tedious work to rearrange the source tree =
to make adding any auto-configuration tool for the build environment =
easy to drop in place. (Which is already merged.)

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Douglas Huff


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