Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WwbLX-0003Jc-UA for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:09:31 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.219.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.219.47; envelope-from=mh.in.england@gmail.com; helo=mail-oa0-f47.google.com; Received: from mail-oa0-f47.google.com ([209.85.219.47]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WwbLW-00066z-9g for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:09:31 +0000 Received: by mail-oa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id n16so6305357oag.34 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 11:09:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.181.74 with SMTP id du10mr2206317obc.52.1402942164676; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 11:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Sender: mh.in.england@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.71.162 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 11:09:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 20:09:24 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 034pF4FM79TIybD8a4vDyXomejU Message-ID: From: Mike Hearn To: Alex Kotenko Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0118479a5db87004fbf7edee X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (mh.in.england[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1WwbLW-00066z-9g Cc: Bitcoin Dev , Lawrence Nahum Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] instant confirmation via payment protocol backwards compatible proto buffer extension X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:09:32 -0000 --089e0118479a5db87004fbf7edee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I think many of us feel it'd be better if this kind of thing were not needed at all, however, the best way to ensure it doesn't end up being used is to write code, not to try and block alternative approaches. If Bitcoin is robust the market should sort it out. If it's robust for some transactions and not others, that makes for a fun project for a future generation of hackers to sort out. OK, enough philosophy - let's try and keep this thread just for discussion of the BIP itself from now on. If you'd like to continue debating the Future of Bitcoin please change the subject line and break it out into a new thread. --089e0118479a5db87004fbf7edee Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think many of us feel it'd be better if this ki= nd of thing were not needed at all, however, the best way to ensure it does= n't end up being used is to write code, not to try and block alternativ= e approaches. If Bitcoin is robust the market should sort it out. If it'= ;s robust for some transactions and not others, that makes for a fun projec= t for a future generation of hackers to sort out.

OK, enough philosophy - let's try and ke= ep this thread just for discussion of the BIP itself from now on. If you= 9;d like to continue debating the Future of Bitcoin please change the subje= ct line and break it out into a new thread.
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